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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	Paul Moore	 <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn"	 <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"open list:SECURITY SUBSYSTEM"	
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list	 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: don't clear IMA_DIGSIG flag when setting non-IMA xattr
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 08:21:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f2b7320b691669068dda110c29c25f8aae2f244.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wwcnoevou44eoe3ner4oegtdsdg46tlvwidu3ynobs7huac7ae@ljivg5ksohxv>

On Wed, 2025-09-10 at 09:36 +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 04:58:05PM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-09-08 at 10:53 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > Hi Coiby,
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2025-09-08 at 19:12 +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Even without an IMA appraise policy, the security xattrs are written out to the
> > > > > filesystem, but the IMA_DIGSIG flag is not cached.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems I miss some context for the above sentence. If no IMA policy is
> > > > configured, no ima_iint_cache will be created. If you mean non-appraisal
> > > > policy, will not caching IMA_DIGSIG flag cause any problem?
> > > 
> > > Sorry.  What I was trying to say is that your test program illustrates the
> > > problem both with or without any of the boot command line options as you
> > > suggested - "ima_appraise=fix evm=fix ima_policy=appraise_tcb".  Writing some
> > > other security xattr is a generic problem, whether the file is in policy or not,
> > > whether IMA or EVM are in fix mode or not.  The rpm-plugin-ima should install
> > > the IMA signature regardless.
> > 
> > My mistake.  An appraise policy indeed needs to be defined for the file
> > signature to be replaced with a file hash.
> 
> Thanks for the clarification! rpm-plugin-ima does try to install IMA
> signature as shown from the following strace output,

Agreed. I was referring to the SELinux label, which would be installed for new
files, but not necessarily re-installed on existing files.  The test program
simplified testing.  Thank you.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-10 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02  4:25 [PATCH] ima: don't clear IMA_DIGSIG flag when setting non-IMA xattr Coiby Xu
2025-09-05  2:41 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-08 11:12   ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-08 14:53     ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-08 20:58       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-10  1:36         ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-10 12:21           ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2025-09-15  4:06             ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-15  6:07               ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-08 10:58 ` [PATCH v2] " Coiby Xu
2025-09-10 12:21   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-15  6:03     ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-15  5:55 ` [PATCH v3] ima: don't clear IMA_DIGSIG flag when setting or removing " Coiby Xu
2025-09-22 17:11   ` Mimi Zohar

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