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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, jlayton@kernel.org, neilb@suse.de,
	kolga@netapp.com, Dai.Ngo@oracle.com, tom@talpey.com,
	jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
	dhowells@redhat.com, jarkko@kernel.org,
	stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, eparis@parisplace.org,
	casey@schaufler-ca.com, mic@digikod.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org, Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] integrity: Switch from rbtree to LSM-managed blob for integrity_iint_cache
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 11:11:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7aefd87764ba8962de85250ff92b82800550401b.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d608edb80efe03b62698ab33cbee1eea856a0422.camel@huaweicloud.com>

On Wed, 2023-12-06 at 14:10 +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-12-04 at 14:26 +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:

...
> > If the result of this patch set should be that IMA and EVM become
> > proper LSMs without the shared integrity layer, instead of collapsing
> > all changes in this patch set, I think we should first verify if IMA
> > and EVM can be really independent. Once we guarantee that, we can
> > proceed making the proper LSMs.
> > 
> > These are the changes I have in mind:
> > 
> > 1) Fix evm_verifyxattr(), and make it work without integrity_iint_cache
> > 2) Remove the integrity_iint_cache parameter from evm_verifyxattr(),
> >    since the other callers are not going to use it
> 
> Ehm, I checked better.
> 
> integrity_inode_get() is public too (although it is not exported). So,
> a caller (not IMA) could do:
> 
> iint = integrity_inode_get(inode);
> status = evm_verifyxattr(..., iint);
> 
> However, it should not call integrity_inode_free(), which is also in
> include/linux/integrity.h, since this is going to be called by
> security_inode_free() (currently).

Calling integrity_inode_free() directly would release the iint early.  
As a result, IMA would then need to re-allocate it on next access. 
Other than impacting IMA's performance, is this a problem?

> > 3) Create an internal function with the original parameters to be used
> >    by IMA
> > 4) Introduce evm_post_path_mknod(), which similarly to
> >    ima_post_path_mknod(), sets IMA_NEW_FILE for new files
> 
> I just realized that also this is changing the current behavior.
> 
> IMA would clear IMA_NEW_FILE in ima_check_last_writer(), while EVM
> wouldn't (unless we implement the file_release hook in EVM too).

True

Mimi

> > 5) Add hardcoded call to evm_post_path_mknod() after
> >    ima_post_path_mknod() in security.c
> > 
> > If we think that this is good enough, we proceed with the move of IMA
> > and EVM functions to the LSM infrastructure (patches v7 19-21).
> > 
> > The next patches are going to be similar to patches v6 22-23, but
> > unlike those, their goal would be simply to split metadata, not to make
> > IMA and EVM independent, which at this point has been addressed
> > separately in the prerequisite patches.
> > 
> > The final patch is to remove the 'integrity' LSM and the integrity
> > metadata management code, which now is not used anymore.
> > 
> > Would that work?
> 
> We are not making much progress, I'm going to follow any recommendation
> that would move this forward.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07 13:39 [PATCH v5 00/23] security: Move IMA and EVM to the LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/23] ima: Align ima_inode_post_setattr() definition with " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:21   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/23] ima: Align ima_file_mprotect() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:22   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/23] ima: Align ima_inode_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:23   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/23] ima: Align ima_inode_removexattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:24   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/23] ima: Align ima_post_read_file() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:25   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 06/23] evm: Align evm_inode_post_setattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:26   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 07/23] evm: Align evm_inode_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:27   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 08/23] evm: Align evm_inode_post_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:28   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 09/23] security: Align inode_setattr hook definition with EVM Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 10/23] security: Introduce inode_post_setattr hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:30   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16  9:43     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-16 18:46       ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/23] security: Introduce inode_post_removexattr hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:33   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 17:45     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 17:31     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 18:03       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-20 20:55         ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 12/23] security: Introduce file_post_open hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:35   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 13/23] security: Introduce file_pre_free_security hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:39   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16  9:46     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-16 18:41       ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 14/23] security: Introduce path_post_mknod hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:41   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 15/23] security: Introduce inode_post_create_tmpfile hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:42   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 16/23] security: Introduce inode_post_set_acl hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:44   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 17/23] security: Introduce inode_post_remove_acl hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:45   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/23] security: Introduce key_post_create_or_update hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:47   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/23] ima: Move to LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:52   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/23] ima: Move IMA-Appraisal " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:43   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 21/23] evm: Move " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:45   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 22/23] integrity: Move integrity functions to the " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:46   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16  4:33   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16 10:07     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-17 21:22       ` Paul Moore
2023-11-20 13:23         ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 23/23] integrity: Switch from rbtree to LSM-managed blob for integrity_iint_cache Roberto Sassu
2023-11-17 20:57   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-20  8:16     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 21:06       ` Paul Moore
2023-11-29 12:27         ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-29 13:58           ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-29 17:22           ` Paul Moore
2023-11-29 18:46             ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-30  0:41               ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30  8:30                 ` Petr Tesarik
2023-11-30 16:15                   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 21:34                     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-30 23:31                       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 23:43                         ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-01  0:12                           ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 11:12               ` Mimi Zohar
2023-11-30 16:59                 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 17:00                   ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 16:34               ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 21:56                 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-04 13:26                 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-04 15:01                   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-12-06 13:10                   ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-06 16:11                     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2023-12-06 16:50                       ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-01  1:05               ` Dr. Greg
2023-12-01 18:54                 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-12-01 23:53                   ` Dr. Greg
2023-12-02  0:17                     ` Casey Schaufler
2023-12-13 10:45     ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-13 18:08       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 14:05 ` [PATCH v5 00/23] security: Move IMA and EVM to the LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 19:37   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-11-08  3:14   ` Paul Moore

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