From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org,
chuck.lever@oracle.com, jlayton@kernel.org, neilb@suse.de,
kolga@netapp.com, Dai.Ngo@oracle.com, tom@talpey.com,
jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
dhowells@redhat.com, jarkko@kernel.org,
stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, eparis@parisplace.org,
casey@schaufler-ca.com, mic@digikod.net,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
selinux@vger.kernel.org, Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] integrity: Switch from rbtree to LSM-managed blob for integrity_iint_cache
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 11:11:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7aefd87764ba8962de85250ff92b82800550401b.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d608edb80efe03b62698ab33cbee1eea856a0422.camel@huaweicloud.com>
On Wed, 2023-12-06 at 14:10 +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-12-04 at 14:26 +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
...
> > If the result of this patch set should be that IMA and EVM become
> > proper LSMs without the shared integrity layer, instead of collapsing
> > all changes in this patch set, I think we should first verify if IMA
> > and EVM can be really independent. Once we guarantee that, we can
> > proceed making the proper LSMs.
> >
> > These are the changes I have in mind:
> >
> > 1) Fix evm_verifyxattr(), and make it work without integrity_iint_cache
> > 2) Remove the integrity_iint_cache parameter from evm_verifyxattr(),
> > since the other callers are not going to use it
>
> Ehm, I checked better.
>
> integrity_inode_get() is public too (although it is not exported). So,
> a caller (not IMA) could do:
>
> iint = integrity_inode_get(inode);
> status = evm_verifyxattr(..., iint);
>
> However, it should not call integrity_inode_free(), which is also in
> include/linux/integrity.h, since this is going to be called by
> security_inode_free() (currently).
Calling integrity_inode_free() directly would release the iint early.
As a result, IMA would then need to re-allocate it on next access.
Other than impacting IMA's performance, is this a problem?
> > 3) Create an internal function with the original parameters to be used
> > by IMA
> > 4) Introduce evm_post_path_mknod(), which similarly to
> > ima_post_path_mknod(), sets IMA_NEW_FILE for new files
>
> I just realized that also this is changing the current behavior.
>
> IMA would clear IMA_NEW_FILE in ima_check_last_writer(), while EVM
> wouldn't (unless we implement the file_release hook in EVM too).
True
Mimi
> > 5) Add hardcoded call to evm_post_path_mknod() after
> > ima_post_path_mknod() in security.c
> >
> > If we think that this is good enough, we proceed with the move of IMA
> > and EVM functions to the LSM infrastructure (patches v7 19-21).
> >
> > The next patches are going to be similar to patches v6 22-23, but
> > unlike those, their goal would be simply to split metadata, not to make
> > IMA and EVM independent, which at this point has been addressed
> > separately in the prerequisite patches.
> >
> > The final patch is to remove the 'integrity' LSM and the integrity
> > metadata management code, which now is not used anymore.
> >
> > Would that work?
>
> We are not making much progress, I'm going to follow any recommendation
> that would move this forward.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-06 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-07 13:39 [PATCH v5 00/23] security: Move IMA and EVM to the LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/23] ima: Align ima_inode_post_setattr() definition with " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:21 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/23] ima: Align ima_file_mprotect() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/23] ima: Align ima_inode_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:23 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/23] ima: Align ima_inode_removexattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:24 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/23] ima: Align ima_post_read_file() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 06/23] evm: Align evm_inode_post_setattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:26 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 07/23] evm: Align evm_inode_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:27 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 08/23] evm: Align evm_inode_post_setxattr() " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:28 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 09/23] security: Align inode_setattr hook definition with EVM Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:39 ` [PATCH v5 10/23] security: Introduce inode_post_setattr hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:30 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16 9:43 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-16 18:46 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/23] security: Introduce inode_post_removexattr hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 17:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 17:31 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 18:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-20 20:55 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 12/23] security: Introduce file_post_open hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:35 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 13/23] security: Introduce file_pre_free_security hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:39 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16 9:46 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-16 18:41 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 14/23] security: Introduce path_post_mknod hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 15/23] security: Introduce inode_post_create_tmpfile hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 16/23] security: Introduce inode_post_set_acl hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 17/23] security: Introduce inode_post_remove_acl hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/23] security: Introduce key_post_create_or_update hook Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:47 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/23] ima: Move to LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 17:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/23] ima: Move IMA-Appraisal " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 21/23] evm: Move " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 22/23] integrity: Move integrity functions to the " Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 18:46 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-16 4:33 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-16 10:07 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-17 21:22 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-20 13:23 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 23/23] integrity: Switch from rbtree to LSM-managed blob for integrity_iint_cache Roberto Sassu
2023-11-17 20:57 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-20 8:16 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-20 21:06 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-29 12:27 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-29 13:58 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-29 17:22 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-29 18:46 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-30 0:41 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 8:30 ` Petr Tesarik
2023-11-30 16:15 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 21:34 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-11-30 23:31 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 23:43 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-01 0:12 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-30 11:12 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-11-30 16:59 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 17:00 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 16:34 ` Paul Moore
2023-11-30 21:56 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-04 13:26 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-04 15:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-12-06 13:10 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-06 16:11 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2023-12-06 16:50 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-01 1:05 ` Dr. Greg
2023-12-01 18:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-12-01 23:53 ` Dr. Greg
2023-12-02 0:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-12-13 10:45 ` Roberto Sassu
2023-12-13 18:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-07 14:05 ` [PATCH v5 00/23] security: Move IMA and EVM to the LSM infrastructure Roberto Sassu
2023-11-07 19:37 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-11-08 3:14 ` Paul Moore
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