From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.231]:45986 "EHLO out01.mta.xmission.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S967823AbeEYTv2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2018 15:51:28 -0400 From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) To: James Morris Cc: Mimi Zohar , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Howells , "Luis R . Rodriguez" , kexec@lists.infradead.org, Andres Rodriguez , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Ard Biesheuvel , Kees Cook , Casey Schaufler References: <1527160176-29269-1-git-send-email-zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1527160176-29269-2-git-send-email-zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <87po1k2304.fsf@xmission.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 14:51:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: (James Morris's message of "Sat, 26 May 2018 01:41:52 +1000 (AEST)") Message-ID: <871sdzy0nv.fsf@xmission.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] security: rename security_kernel_read_file() hook Sender: linux-integrity-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: James Morris writes: > On Thu, 24 May 2018, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > >> Below is where I suggest you start on sorting out these security hooks. >> - Adding a security_kernel_arg to catch when you want to allow/deny the >> use of an argument to a syscall. What security_kernel_file_read and >> security_kernel_file_post_read have been abused for. > > NAK. This abstraction is too semantically weak. > > LSM hooks need to map to stronger semantics so we can reason about what > the hook and the policy is supposed to be mediating. I will take that as an extremely weak nack as all I did was expose the existing code and what the code is currently doing. I don't see how you can NAK what is already being merged and used. I will be happy to see a better proposal. The best I can see is to take each and every syscall that my patch is calling syscall_kernel_arg and make it it's own hook without an enumeration. I did not see any real duplication between the cases in my enumeration so I don't think that will be a problem. Maybe a bit of a challenge for loadpin but otherwise not. Thank you in this for understanding why I am having problems with the current hook. Eric