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From: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Nicolai Stange <nstange@suse.de>,
	 Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	 Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	 Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	 James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	 linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] ima: always create runtime_measurements sysfs file for ima_hash
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:46:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wmcboqg4.fsf@> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbd87f01b5463e399900df8dcb094a9039bd589f.camel@linux.ibm.com> (Mimi Zohar's message of "Wed, 26 Mar 2025 09:17:05 -0400")

Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> writes:

> On Wed, 2025-03-26 at 09:21 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:
>> Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 2025-03-23 at 15:09 +0100, Nicolai Stange wrote:

>> > "ima_hash" is the default file hash algorithm.  Re-using it as the default
>> > complete measurement list assumes that the subsequent kexec'ed kernels configure
>> > and define it as the default file hash algorithm as well, which might not be the
>> > case.
>> 
>> I don't really see why the ima_hashes would have to match between kexecs
>> for this to work -- all events' template hashes are getting recreated
>> from scratch anyway after kexec (ima_restore_measurement_list() ->
>> ima_calc_field_array_hash()).
>> 
>> That is, if ima_hash=sha256 first, and ima_hash=sha384 after kexec, one
>> would have *runtime_measurements_sha256 first and
>> *runtime_measurements_sha384 after kexec. And both had exclusively
>> template hashes of their respective algo in them each.
>> 
>> What am I missing?
>
> Your solution would work nicely, if the "ima_hash" algorithm could be guaranteed
> to be built into the kernel.  It's highly unlikely someone would choose a hash
> algorithm not built into kernel, but it is possible.  hash_setup() only verifies
> that the hash algorithm is a valid name.

But ima_init_ima_crypto(), hence the whole IMA __init, would fail if
ima_hash was unavailable at __init time?

Thanks,

Nicolai

> Either fix hash_setup() to guarantee that the chosen hash algorithm is built
> into the kernel or use the CONFIG_IMA_DEFAULT_HASH and add a Kconfig to select
> the hash algorithm.  This would be in lieu of v2 05/13.
>
>> > Drop this patch.
>> 
>> Fine by me, but just to confirm, in case there's no TPM attached and
>> SHA1 was disabled, there would be no /sys/*/*runtime_measurement* at all
>> then. Is that Ok?
>
> Of course not.  :)
>
>> ima_hash was chosen here only, because after this series, it will be the
>> only single algorithm guaranteed to be available.
>
> With the proposed changes to "[RFC PATCH v2 05/13] ima: select CRYPTO_SHA256
> from Kconfig', SHA256 would be added to the "extra" measurements if the TPM
> SHA256 bank is disabled.


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-26 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-23 14:08 [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/13] ima: don't expose runtime_measurements for unsupported hashes Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 14:26   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  7:44     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:28       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/13] ima: always create runtime_measurements sysfs file for ima_hash Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 14:31   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  8:21     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 13:17       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 13:46         ` Nicolai Stange [this message]
2025-03-26 14:48           ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 21:18   ` James Bottomley
2025-03-25  1:03     ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-25 15:44       ` James Bottomley
2025-03-26  8:45         ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-24 15:05   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:01     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26 14:18       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26 14:31         ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/13] ima: make SHA1 non-mandatory Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/13] ima: select CRYPTO_SHA256 from Kconfig Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 15:17   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/13] ima: move INVALID_PCR() to ima.h Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/13] tpm: enable bank selection for PCR extend Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:41   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26  9:45     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26  1:18   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:41     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/13] ima: track the set of PCRs ever extended Nicolai Stange
2025-03-25 17:09   ` Mimi Zohar
2025-03-26  9:56     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/13] ima: invalidate unsupported PCR banks only once Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/13] tpm: authenticate tpm2_pcr_read() Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 17:25   ` James Bottomley
2025-03-26  6:34     ` Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 20:35   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/13] ima: introduce ima_pcr_invalidated_banks() helper Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/13] ima: make ima_free_tfm()'s linkage extern Nicolai Stange
2025-03-23 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/13] ima: don't re-invalidate unsupported PCR banks after kexec Nicolai Stange
2025-03-26  1:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/13] ima: get rid of hard dependency on SHA-1 Mimi Zohar

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