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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Linux Crypto Mailing List" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Guangwu Zhang" <guazhang@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Huewe" <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	"James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hwrng: core - Add WARN_ON for buggy read return values
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 17:31:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D4DQJ34I5FSD.1K618VWEKI7IW@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZvE0NrOC00ojRe3t@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Mon Sep 23, 2024 at 12:26 PM EEST, Herbert Xu wrote:
 > > +
> > > +		err = rng->read(rng, buffer, size, wait);
> > > +		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(err > 0 && err > size))
> > 
> > Are you sure you want to use WARN_ON_ONCE here instead of
> > pr_warn_once()? I.e. is it worth of taking down the whole
> > kernel?
>
> Absolutely.  If this triggers it's a serious kernel bug and we
> should gather as much information as possible.  pr_warn_once is
> not the same thing as WARN_ON_ONCE in terms of what it prints.

Personally I allow the use of WARN only as the last resort.

If you need stack printout you can always use dump_stack().

>
> If people want to turn WARNs into BUGs, then they've only got
> themselves to blame when the kernel goes down.  On the other
> hand perhaps they *do* want this to panic and we should hand
> it to them.

Actually when you turn on "panic_on_warn" the user expectation is and
should be that the sites where WARN is used have been hand picked with
consideration so that panic happens for a reason.

This has also been denoted repeatedly by Greg:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-cve-announce/2024061828-CVE-2024-36975-6719@gregkh/

I should check this somewhere but actually these days a wrongly chosen
WARN() might lead to CVE entry. That fix was by me but I never created
the CVE.

Greg, did we have something under Documentation/ that would fully
address the use of WARN?

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-23 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-23  6:05 [PATCH] hwrng: core - Add WARN_ON for buggy read return values Herbert Xu
2024-09-23  7:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-23  8:07   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-23  8:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-23  9:26   ` Herbert Xu
2024-09-23 14:31     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-09-23 14:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-23 14:48       ` Greg KH
2024-09-23 20:46         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-23 22:32         ` Herbert Xu
2024-09-24 16:05           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-24 17:43             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-09-27  0:42               ` Herbert Xu
2024-10-07 23:28                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07  5:19                   ` Herbert Xu
2025-04-07  6:26                     ` [PATCH] tpm: Mask TPM RC in tpm2_start_auth_session() Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07  7:17                       ` [PATCH v2] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07  7:20                         ` [PATCH v3] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07  8:04                           ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-07 11:30                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07 13:20                               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-07 12:28                           ` [PATCH v4] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07 12:32                             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-07 13:51                             ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-04-07 18:13                               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-04-08 16:03                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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