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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@kernel.org>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] tpm/tpm_ftpm_tee: use send_recv() op
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 16:57:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-QV5y1JGBDpsPuH@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z+QQWe/upJuVpU8r@ziepe.ca>

On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:34:01AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 02:11:12PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> > Generally speaking I don't see enough value in complicating
> > callback interface. It's better to handle complications in
> > the leaves (i.e. dictatorship of majority ;-) ).
> 
> That is very much not the way most driver subsystems view the
> world. We want to pull logical things into the core code and remove
> them from drivers to make the drivers simpler and more robust.
> 
> The amount of really dumb driver boiler plate that this series
> obviously removes is exactly the sort of stuff we should be fixing by
> improving the core code.
> 
> The callback interface was never really sanely designed, it was just
> built around the idea of pulling the timout processing into the core
> code for TIS hardware. It should be revised to properly match these
> new HW types that don't have this kind of timeout mechanism.

Both TIS and CRB, which are TCG standards and they span to many
different types of drivers and busses. I don't have the figures but
probably they cover vast majority of the hardware.

We are talking about 39 lines of reduced complexity at the cost
of complicating branching at the top level. I doubt that there
is either any throughput or latency issues.

What is measurable benefit? The rationale is way way too abstract
for me to cope, sorry.

> Jason

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-26 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-20 15:24 [PATCH 0/2] tpm: add send_recv() op and use it in tpm_ftpm_tee driver Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] tpm: add send_recv() op in tpm_class_ops Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-26 16:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27  9:48     ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-27 13:02       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27 14:44         ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-20 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm/tpm_ftpm_tee: use send_recv() op Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-25  5:19   ` Sumit Garg
2025-03-26 12:11     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 14:34       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 14:57         ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-03-26 15:58           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-26 20:37             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-03-27  9:27               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-27 13:04                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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