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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@kernel.org>
Cc: Stuart Yoder <stuart.yoder@arm.com>,
	Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, jarkko@kernel.org,
	peterhuewe@gmx.de, jgg@ziepe.ca, rafael@kernel.org,
	lenb@kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add support for the TPM FF-A start method
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:02:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7iHaWPyq3KDG7J2@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z7iDuwLDA2rFPZK6@sumit-X1>

Hi Sumit,

On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 07:16:35PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 10:56:58AM -0600, Stuart Yoder wrote:
> >
> > I don't see how changing TPM discovery to be via FF-A directly
> > would improve maintainability.
>
> You are considering ACPI at this point but when people want to use this
> TPM over FF-A on a platform using DT then it will require corresponding
> DT bindings. After that each platform has to enable TPM over FF-A in
> their corresponding ACPI/DT. All that won't be needed with auto
> discovery over FF-A.

I hear you and completely agree. However, someone thought it was a good idea
to align with other start methods and duplicate information in the TCG ACPI
specification. This is definitely a bad idea, as it may contradict the
firmware. All we needed was a simple flag to indicate whether FF-A is the
start method.

It sounds like a classic case of misalignment between specification authors
and practical implementation needs. Instead of a simple flag to indicate FF-A
as the start method, duplicating information in the TCG ACPI specification
seems unnecessary and potentially problematic—especially if it risks
conflicting with firmware behavior.

Anyway, I can't comment on how we ended up here, but this seems to be the reality.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-21 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-10 23:22 [PATCH 0/4] Add support for the TPM FF-A start method Stuart Yoder
2025-02-10 23:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] tpm_crb: implement driver compliant to CRB over FF-A Stuart Yoder
2025-02-11 21:08   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-11 23:21     ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-10 23:22 ` [PATCH 2/4] tpm_crb: refactor check for idle support into TPM into inline function Stuart Yoder
2025-02-10 23:22 ` [PATCH 3/4] ACPICA: add start method for Arm FF-A Stuart Yoder
2025-02-11  9:57   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-02-11 21:50     ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-10 23:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] tpm_crb: add support for the Arm FF-A start method Stuart Yoder
2025-02-11  6:45 ` [PATCH 0/4] Add support for the TPM " Sumit Garg
2025-02-11 16:09   ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-12  7:39     ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-12 21:55       ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-13  5:31         ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-13 15:19           ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-17  5:17             ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-17 16:56               ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-21 13:46                 ` Sumit Garg
2025-02-21 14:02                   ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2025-02-21 18:29                     ` Stuart Yoder
2025-02-22 15:39                       ` Sudeep Holla
2025-02-11 10:12 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-02-11 21:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-11 23:21   ` Stuart Yoder

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