From: Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: Measure data again even when it has not changed
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 20:41:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a83fdf87-d98e-b5cd-2557-2fae88b09a13@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59f23e8953c0735695e5679fc7b7021252837874.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On 7/29/20 8:23 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-07-29 at 10:17 -0700, Lakshmi Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> Hi Mimi,
>>
>> I have a query related to measuring data (by IMA subsystem) when that
>> data has been already been measured.
>>
>> Consider the following sequence of events:
>>
>> => At time T0 IMA hook is called by another subsystem to measure data
>> "foo". IMA measures it.
>>
>> => At time T1 data is "bar". IMA measures it.
>>
>> => At time T2 data is "foo" again. But IMA doesn't measure it since it
>> is already in the measured list.
>>
>> But for the subsystem making the call to IMA, the state has changed and
>> "foo" has to be measured again.
>>
>> One way to address the above is to use unique "event name" in each call
>> so that IMA measures the given data every time.
>>
>> Is there a better way to address the above?
>
> Most likely the file is being re-measured, but the new value already exists in
> the hash table so it isn't being added to the IMA measurement list or extending
> the TPM. When IMA was upstreamed, there was concern about TPM performance and
> the number of measurements being extended. We've improved TPM performance quite
> a bit. If you're not concerned about TPM performance, I would define a new
> template data field based on i_version.
In the use case I am considering the entity being measured is not a
file, but a memory buffer - it is for measuring an LSM's data
constructs. So i_version is not available in this case.
When LSM's data changes from A to B and then back to A, hash(A) already
exists in IMA's hash table. So A is not measured again.
Since LSM state change is not expected to be frequent, TPM performance
shouldn't be a concern.
thanks,
-lakshmi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-30 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-29 17:17 Measure data again even when it has not changed Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-07-30 3:23 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-07-30 3:41 ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian [this message]
2020-07-30 12:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-07-30 13:12 ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2020-07-30 14:05 ` Stephen Smalley
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