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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: keyrings@vger.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KEYS: Reduce smp_mb() calls in key_put()
Date: Sun, 4 May 2025 19:55:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBecHr6jBLWmJcyP@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBYwIcy5JCOamAkj@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 11:02:57PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 05:39:16PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 06:25:53PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > Rely only on the memory ordering of spin_unlock() when setting
> > > KEY_FLAG_FINAL_PUT under key->user->lock in key_put().
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  security/keys/key.c | 6 ++++--
> > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/security/keys/key.c b/security/keys/key.c
> > > index 7198cd2ac3a3..aecbd624612d 100644
> > > --- a/security/keys/key.c
> > > +++ b/security/keys/key.c
> > > @@ -656,10 +656,12 @@ void key_put(struct key *key)
> > >  				spin_lock_irqsave(&key->user->lock, flags);
> > >  				key->user->qnkeys--;
> > >  				key->user->qnbytes -= key->quotalen;
> > > +				set_bit(KEY_FLAG_FINAL_PUT, &key->flags);
> > >  				spin_unlock_irqrestore(&key->user->lock, flags);
> > > +			} else {
> > > +				set_bit(KEY_FLAG_FINAL_PUT, &key->flags);
> > > +				smp_mb(); /* key->user before FINAL_PUT set. */
> > >  			}
> > > -			smp_mb(); /* key->user before FINAL_PUT set. */
> > > -			set_bit(KEY_FLAG_FINAL_PUT, &key->flags);
> > 
> > Oops, my bad (order swap), sorry. Should have been:
> > 	
> >  				spin_unlock_irqrestore(&key->user->lock, flags);
> > 			} else {
> > 				smp_mb(); /* key->user before FINAL_PUT set. */
> 
> You can use smp_mb__before_atomic here as it is equivalent to
> smp_mb in this situation.
> 
> >  			}
> > 			set_bit(KEY_FLAG_FINAL_PUT, &key->flags);
> > 
> > Should spin_lock()/unlock() be good enough or what good does smp_mb() do
> > in that branch? Just checking if I'm missing something before sending
> > fixed version.
> 
> I don't think spin_unlock alone is enough to replace an smp_mb.
> A spin_lock + spin_unlock would be enough though.
> 
> However, looking at the bigger picture this smp_mb looks bogus.
> What exactly is it protecting against?
> 
> The race condition that this is supposed to fix should have been
> dealt with by the set_bit/test_bit of FINAL_PUT alone.  I don't
> see any point in having this smb_mb at all.

smp_mb() there makes sure that key->user change don't spill between
key_put() and gc.

GC pairs smp_mb() in key_put() after FINAL_PUT to make sure that also
in its side key->user changes have been walled before moving the key
as part of unrefenced keys.

See also [1]. It cleared this up for me. Here user->lock easily misleads
to overlook the actual synchronization scheme.

> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
> PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/keyrings/1121543.1746310761@warthog.procyon.org.uk/

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-04 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30 15:25 [PATCH] KEYS: Reduce smp_mb() calls in key_put() Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-05-03 14:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-05-03 15:02   ` Herbert Xu
2025-05-04 16:55     ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-05-03 22:19 ` David Howells
2025-05-04  0:35   ` Herbert Xu
2025-05-04  5:36     ` [PATCH] KEYS: Invert FINAL_PUT bit Herbert Xu
2025-05-04  7:44     ` David Howells
2025-05-04  7:52       ` [v2 PATCH] " Herbert Xu
2025-05-09  9:34         ` kernel test robot
2025-05-09  9:45           ` [v3 " Herbert Xu
2025-05-12  9:19           ` David Howells
2025-05-12 11:42             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-05-12 12:01             ` David Howells
2025-05-12 12:07               ` Herbert Xu
2025-05-04 16:42   ` [PATCH] KEYS: Reduce smp_mb() calls in key_put() Jarkko Sakkinen

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