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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] tpm: Allow for exclusive TPM access when using /dev/tpm<n>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 21:38:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aP_KT0GiQSzt1ClO@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cec499d5130f37a7887d39b44efd8538dd361fe3.camel@huaweicloud.com>

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 01:53:30PM +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On Mon, 2025-10-20 at 12:31 +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > From: Jonathan McDowell <noodles@meta.com>
> > 
> > There are situations where userspace might reasonably desire exclusive
> > access to the TPM, or the kernel's internal context saving + flushing
> > may cause issues, for example when performing firmware upgrades. Extend
> > the locking already used for avoiding concurrent userspace access to
> > prevent internal users of the TPM when /dev/tpm<n> is in use.
> > 
> > The few internal users who already hold the open_lock are changed to use
> > tpm_internal_(try_get|put)_ops, with the old tpm_(try_get|put)_ops
> > functions changing to obtain read access to the open_lock.  We return
> > -EBUSY when another user has exclusive access, rather than adding waits.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Jonathan McDowell <noodles@meta.com>
> > ---
> > v2: Switch to _locked instead of _internal_ for function names.
> > v3: Move to end of patch series.
> > 
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c       | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm-dev-common.c |  8 ++---
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h            |  2 ++
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm2-space.c     |  5 ++-
> >  4 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
> > index ba906966721a..687f6d8cd601 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
> > @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ void tpm_chip_stop(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(tpm_chip_stop);
> >  
> >  /**
> > - * tpm_try_get_ops() - Get a ref to the tpm_chip
> > + * tpm_try_get_ops_locked() - Get a ref to the tpm_chip
> >   * @chip: Chip to ref
> >   *
> >   * The caller must already have some kind of locking to ensure that chip is
> > @@ -154,7 +154,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(tpm_chip_stop);
> >   *
> >   * Returns -ERRNO if the chip could not be got.
> >   */
> > -int tpm_try_get_ops(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> > +int tpm_try_get_ops_locked(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  {
> >  	int rc = -EIO;
> >  
> > @@ -185,22 +185,57 @@ int tpm_try_get_ops(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  	put_device(&chip->dev);
> >  	return rc;
> >  }
> > -EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(tpm_try_get_ops);
> >  
> >  /**
> > - * tpm_put_ops() - Release a ref to the tpm_chip
> > + * tpm_put_ops_locked() - Release a ref to the tpm_chip
> >   * @chip: Chip to put
> >   *
> > - * This is the opposite pair to tpm_try_get_ops(). After this returns chip may
> > - * be kfree'd.
> > + * This is the opposite pair to tpm_try_get_ops_locked(). After this returns
> > + * chip may be kfree'd.
> >   */
> > -void tpm_put_ops(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> > +void tpm_put_ops_locked(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  {
> >  	tpm_chip_stop(chip);
> >  	mutex_unlock(&chip->tpm_mutex);
> >  	up_read(&chip->ops_sem);
> >  	put_device(&chip->dev);
> >  }
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * tpm_try_get_ops() - Get a ref to the tpm_chip
> > + * @chip: Chip to ref
> > + *
> > + * The caller must already have some kind of locking to ensure that chip is
> > + * valid. This function will attempt to get the open_lock for the chip,
> > + * ensuring no other user is expecting exclusive access, before locking the
> > + * chip so that the ops member can be accessed safely. The locking prevents
> > + * tpm_chip_unregister from completing, so it should not be held for long
> > + * periods.
> > + *
> > + * Returns -ERRNO if the chip could not be got.
> > + */
> > +int tpm_try_get_ops(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> > +{
> > +	if (!down_read_trylock(&chip->open_lock))
> > +		return -EBUSY;
> 
> Hi Jonathan
> 
> do I understand it correctly, that a process might open the TPM with
> O_EXCL, and this will prevent IMA from extending a PCR until that
> process closes the file descriptor?
> 
> If yes, this might be a concern, and I think an additional API to
> prevent such behavior would be needed (for example when IMA is active,
> i.e. there is a measurement policy loaded).

Also this would be a problem with hwrng.

This probably needs to be refined somehow. I don't have a solution at
hand but "invariant" is that in-kernel caller should override user space
exclusion, even when O_EXCL is used.


> 
> Thanks
> 
> Roberto

BR, Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-02 17:26 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Re-establish ability for exclusive TPM access to userspace Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-02 17:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] tpm: Ensure exclusive userspace access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-03 19:22   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-02 17:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm: Remove tpm_find_get_ops Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-10 16:54   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-02 17:27 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] tpm: Allow for exclusive TPM access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-10 17:04   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-02 17:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] tpm: Require O_EXCL for exclusive /dev/tpm access Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-10 17:06   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-23 17:09 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Re-establish ability for exclusive TPM access to userspace Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-23 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] tpm: Ensure exclusive userspace access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-24  1:14     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-23 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] tpm: Remove tpm_find_get_ops Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-24  1:19     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-23 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] tpm: Allow for exclusive TPM access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-24  1:22     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-23 17:10   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tpm: Require O_EXCL for exclusive /dev/tpm access Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-24  1:23     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-10-20 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] pm: Ensure exclusive userspace access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-20 11:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] tpm: Remove tpm_find_get_ops Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-20 11:30     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] tpm: Add O_EXCL for exclusive /dev/tpm access Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-20 11:30     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] tpm: Include /dev/tpmrm<n> when checking exclusive userspace TPM access Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-20 11:31     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] tpm: Allow for exclusive TPM access when using /dev/tpm<n> Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-20 11:53       ` Roberto Sassu
2025-10-23 14:24         ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-10-27 19:38         ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-10-27 20:09           ` James Bottomley
2025-10-27 20:18             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-11-03 18:38           ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-11-09  4:34             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-10-24 18:55     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] pm: Ensure exclusive userspace " Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-10-27 11:50       ` Mimi Zohar
2025-10-27 19:41         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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