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From: "Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)" <u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	 Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	 Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: Use named initializers for arrays of i2c_device_data
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 09:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahP3V5viwMtnH9PC@monoceros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahBPlW1l2RAdxpT6@kernel.org>

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Hello Jarkko,

On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 03:44:05PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 10:16:39AM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 12:43:23AM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > Clean up can be side-effect but not a purpose.
> > 
> > Oh, I disagree. Having code in a state where you can easily see what
> > happens helps to concentrate on the parts that are more complicated. So
> > it's a win for maintenance and lowering the entry bar for people who are
> > not used to Linux kernel code. There are parts in the kernel that are
> > complicated, and we won't get rid of them, because operating systems are
> > complicated. But my POV here is that making it easier where it's
> > possible is a good thing and a reason for itself. You might call that a
> > paper cut only, but these add up.
> > 
> > Also with the union in i2c_device_id the compiler warns you if some code
> > is lacking a "const". So it becomes harder to make mistakes, this is
> > also a reason that in my book is good enough for itself.
> 
> Actually what I said is more important than ever before given AI agents.
> 
> If I start to accept pure cleanups from humans it's like invitiation for
> slop. This is actually an area where it would be advicable for any
> maintainer to tighten the acceptance criteria.

I also disagree here. If a patch improves something (be it security,
runtime behaviour or maintainability) that should be reason enough to
accept it. If it's created by AI (or a by a newbie with the help of AI)
that's a reason to make sure the patch has the intended effect, but
that's essentially the same for any patch.

I agree that AI might get problematic if it floods maintainers and
effectively becomes a DOS attack to maintainer resources. But that
doesn't necessarily makes the patches it proposes bad.

Best regards
Uwe

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      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-25  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-18 13:40 [PATCH] tpm: Use named initializers for arrays of i2c_device_data Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-05-21 21:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-05-22  8:16   ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub)
2026-05-22 12:44     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-05-25  7:26       ` Uwe Kleine-König (The Capable Hub) [this message]

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