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From: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] char/tpm: Improve a size determination in nine functions
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:58:18 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Mimi Zohar wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 11:50 +0000, Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com
> wrote:
> > > > Replace the specification of data structures by pointer dereferences
> > > > as the parameter for the operator "sizeof" to make the corresponding
> > > > size
> > > > determination a bit safer according to the Linux coding style
> > > > convention.
> > >
> > >
> > > This patch does one style in favor of the other.
> >
> > I actually prefer that style, so I'd welcome this change :)
>
> Style changes should be reviewed and documented, like any other code
> change, and added to Documentation/process/coding-style.rst or an
> equivalent file.

Actually, it has been there for many years:

14) Allocating memory
---------------------
...
The preferred form for passing a size of a struct is the following:

.. code-block:: c

	p = kmalloc(sizeof(*p), ...);

The alternative form where struct name is spelled out hurts readability and
introduces an opportunity for a bug when the pointer variable type is changed
but the corresponding sizeof that is passed to a memory allocator is not.

julia

>
> > > At the end it's Jarkko's call, though I would NAK this as I think some
> > > one already told this to you for some other similar patch(es).
> > >
> > >
> > > I even would suggest to stop doing this noisy stuff, which keeps people
> > > busy for nothing.
> >
> > Cleaning up old code is also worth something, even if does not
> > change one bit in the assembly output in the end...
>
> Wow, you're opening the door really wide for all sorts of trivial
> changes!  Hope you have the time and inclination to review and comment
> on all of them.  I certainly don't.
>
> There is a major difference between adding these sorts of checks to
> the tools in the scripts directory or even to the zero day bots that
> catch different sorts of errors, BEFORE code is upstreamed, and
> patches like these, after the fact.
>
> After the code has been upstreamed, it is a lot more difficult to
> justify changes like this.  It impacts both code that is being
> developed AND backporting bug fixes.
>
> Mimi
>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] char/tpm: Improve a size determination in nine
 functions
From:   Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To:     Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com
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On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 08:52 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-10-17 at 11:50 +0000, Alexander.Steffen@infineon.com
> wrote:
> > > > Replace the specification of data structures by pointer
> > > > dereferences
> > > > as the parameter for the operator "sizeof" to make the
> > > > corresponding
> > > > size
> > > > determination a bit safer according to the Linux coding style
> > > > convention.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This patch does one style in favor of the other.
> > 
> > I actually prefer that style, so I'd welcome this change :)
> 
> Style changes should be reviewed and documented, like any other code
> change, and added to Documentation/process/coding-style.rst or an
> equivalent file.

+1.

> > > At the end it's Jarkko's call, though I would NAK this as I think
> > > some
> > > one already told this to you for some other similar patch(es).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I even would suggest to stop doing this noisy stuff, which keeps
> > > people
> > > busy for nothing.
> > 
> > Cleaning up old code is also worth something, even if does not
> > change one bit in the assembly output in the end...
> 
> Wow, you're opening the door really wide for all sorts of trivial
> changes!  Hope you have the time and inclination to review and comment
> on all of them.  I certainly don't.

Moreover and not so obvious is an open door for making back port of
*real* fixes much harder!

> There is a major difference between adding these sorts of checks to
> the tools in the scripts directory or even to the zero day bots that
> catch different sorts of errors, BEFORE code is upstreamed, and
> patches like these, after the fact.

+1.

> After the code has been upstreamed, it is a lot more difficult to
> justify changes like this.  It impacts both code that is being
> developed AND backporting bug fixes.

-- 
Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Intel Finland Oy

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-17 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-16 17:30 [PATCH 0/4] char-TPM: Adjustments for ten function implementations SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-16 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] char/tpm: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in tpm_ascii_bios_measurements_show() SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-16 17:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] char/tpm: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in tpm_ibmvtpm_probe() SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-16 17:33 ` [PATCH 3/4] char/tpm: Improve a size determination in nine functions SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17 11:03   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-17 11:50     ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-17 12:52       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-17 12:58         ` Julia Lawall [this message]
2017-10-17 15:17           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-17 15:29             ` Julia Lawall
2017-10-18  9:16               ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-17 18:41             ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17 19:28               ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-17 20:04                 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17 19:36               ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-17 20:24                 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 14:57               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 15:22                 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 15:59                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 16:43                     ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 17:18                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 17:22                         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 17:54                           ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 17:48                         ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 17:54                           ` Jerry Snitselaar
2017-10-18 18:11                             ` char/tpm: Delete an error message for a failed memory allocation in tpm_…() SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 18:03                           ` char/tpm: Improve a size determination in nine functions Andy Shevchenko
2017-10-19 12:04                             ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-19 12:16                           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-17 15:22         ` [PATCH 3/4] " Alexander.Steffen
     [not found]         ` <1508245325.16112.478.camel@linux.intel.com>
2017-10-18 14:52           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 14:48       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-19 16:58         ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-20  9:01           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-20 10:23             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-20 12:03               ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-23 13:20           ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-18 14:40     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-16 17:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] char/tpm: Less checks in tpm_ibmvtpm_probe() after error detection SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-19 11:56   ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-19 12:36     ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-19 12:46       ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-19 14:26         ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-19 13:36     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-19 14:16       ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-19 14:59         ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-19 20:44       ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-16 18:31 ` [PATCH 0/4] char-TPM: Adjustments for ten function implementations Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-16 18:35   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-16 20:44     ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 15:04       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 15:43         ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-16 22:46     ` [PATCH 0/4] " Joe Perches
2017-10-17  7:20       ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17  8:51     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-17  8:56       ` Julia Lawall
2017-10-17  9:44         ` Dan Carpenter
2017-10-17 10:11           ` Julia Lawall
2017-10-17 11:52             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-18  3:18               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-19 13:16                 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-19 16:08                   ` Circumstances for using the tag “Fixes” (or not) SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17 12:26           ` [PATCH 0/4] char-TPM: Adjustments for ten function implementations Michael Ellerman
2017-10-18 15:07           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-17  9:25       ` SF Markus Elfring
     [not found]         ` <1508255833.3129.33.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
2017-10-17 16:32           ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-17 22:43           ` Joe Perches
2017-10-18  9:00             ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18  9:18               ` Joe Perches
2017-10-18  9:50                 ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-18 10:00                   ` Julia Lawall
2017-10-18 10:28                     ` Joe Perches
2017-10-18 11:00                       ` Adjusting further size determinations? SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 11:49                         ` Joe Perches
2017-10-18 12:07                           ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 12:58                             ` David Laight
2017-10-18 13:32                               ` Julia Lawall
2017-10-18 13:50                                 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 10:44                     ` char-TPM: Adjustments for ten function implementations Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-18 10:49                       ` Joe Perches
2017-10-18 11:07                         ` Alexander.Steffen
2017-10-18  9:55                 ` SF Markus Elfring
2017-10-18 18:27                 ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-18 15:10           ` [PATCH 0/4] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-18 16:09             ` James Bottomley
2017-10-18 17:13               ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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