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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	surenkj@amazon.com, noodles@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] tpm: Disable a TPM that stops responding
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 16:00:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avXGjiejK2ZlldKs@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261112-tpm_unresponsive-v2-1-7454d2c899ef@debian.org>

On Thu, Nov 12, 2026 at 04:30:17AM -0800, Breno Leitao wrote:
> A TPM that stops responding fails each command only after the transport
> timeout, and its callers keep sending more: the hwrng thread every 10
> seconds forever, and userspace through /dev/tpmrm0. Each attempt holds
> tpm_mutex for the whole timeout and logs an error:
> 
>   tpm tpm0: invalid TPM_STS.x 0xff, dumping stack for forensics
>   tpm tpm0: tpm_try_transmit: send(): error -62
>   tpm tpm0: tpm_try_transmit: send(): error -62
>   ...
> 
> The core already stops using a TPM it cannot trust: tpm_try_get_ops()
> fails with -EIO once TPM_CHIP_FLAG_DISABLE is set, which
> tpm2_load_null() does when it cannot restore the null key. Set the same
> flag once 60 commands in a row have timed out.
> 
> A completed command, whatever its TPM return code, resets the count.
> Some TPMs stall for half a minute, time out a handful of commands, and
> then recover, so a short streak must not disable them.
> 
> With only the hwrng retrying every 10 seconds, 60 timeouts take more
> than ten minutes. A userspace poller gets there sooner, but each of its
> commands still waits out the transport timeout.
> 
> The limit is the tpm.max_unanswered boot parameter, so that slow
> pre-production parts, such as FPGA prototypes, can raise it, or set it
> to 0 to never disable the TPM. A disabled TPM stays disabled until the
> driver is rebound or the machine reboots.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
> ---
>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c | 15 +++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/tpm.h              |  1 +
>  2 files changed, 16 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c
> index e0385b16616b46..b7865ccb799289 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-interface.c
> @@ -40,6 +40,11 @@ module_param_named(suspend_pcr, tpm_suspend_pcr, uint, 0644);
>  MODULE_PARM_DESC(suspend_pcr,
>  		 "PCR to use for dummy writes to facilitate flush on suspend.");
>  
> +static unsigned int tpm_max_unanswered = 60;
> +module_param_named(max_unanswered, tpm_max_unanswered, uint, 0444);
> +MODULE_PARM_DESC(max_unanswered,
> +		 "Disable the TPM after this many commands in a row time out (0 = never).");

Documentation/admin/kernel-parameters.txt update is also needed.

tpm_max_missed_responses is what I would suggest, because it is more
accurate e.g., on stating what is being counted :-)


> +
>  /**
>   * tpm_calc_ordinal_duration() - calculate the maximum command duration
>   * @chip:    TPM chip to use.
> @@ -268,6 +273,16 @@ ssize_t tpm_transmit(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz)
>  		delay_msec *= 2;
>  		memcpy(buf, save, save_size);
>  	}
> +
> +	if (ret >= 0) {
> +		/* we are good, reset nr_unanswered */

I'm not a huge fan in general of third person plural in the source code
comments. Probably a comment here is not needed at all as it does not
state anything that would not be obvious (i.e. something nothing
non-obvious is documented).

> +		chip->nr_unanswered = 0;
> +	} else if (ret == -ETIME &&
> +		   ++chip->nr_unanswered == tpm_max_unanswered) {
> +		dev_err(&chip->dev, "%u commands in a row timed out, disabling the TPM\n",
> +			chip->nr_unanswered);
> +		chip->flags |= TPM_CHIP_FLAG_DISABLE;
> +	}
>  	return ret;
>  }
>  
> diff --git a/include/linux/tpm.h b/include/linux/tpm.h
> index 0db277af45c393..e8191585a68e7a 100644
> --- a/include/linux/tpm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/tpm.h
> @@ -131,6 +131,7 @@ struct tpm_chip {
>  	struct hwrng hwrng;
>  
>  	struct mutex tpm_mutex;	/* tpm is processing */
> +	unsigned int nr_unanswered;	/* commands in a row that timed out */

This would be then nr_lost_responses.

>  
>  	unsigned long timeout_a; /* jiffies */
>  	unsigned long timeout_b; /* jiffies */
> 
> -- 
> 2.53.0-Meta
> 

Br, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-12 12:30 [PATCH v2 0/2] tpm: Stop retrying TPMs that have stopped working Breno Leitao
2026-11-12 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] tpm: Disable a TPM that stops responding Breno Leitao
2026-11-12 14:00   ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-11-12 14:03     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-11-12 12:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] tpm: Disable TPM on TPM_RC_INITIALIZE Breno Leitao
2026-11-12 13:37   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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