From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"open list:SECURITY SUBSYSTEM"
<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ima: setting security.ima to fix security.evm for a file with IMA signature
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:15:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cbcbdb3e4aed17f387ae1d357906796551e2f470.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <r3himk4z2aiyqsjstlpnda4wafeo7i4oum3n2dbvnasmtep5ex@zqodcpjmyx5b>
On Wed, 2025-09-10 at 09:20 +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 11:31:20AM -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-09-09 at 12:19 +0800, Coiby Xu wrote:
> > > When both IMA and EVM fix modes are enabled, accessing a file with IMA
> > > signature won't cause security.evm to be fixed. But this doesn't happen
> > > to a file with correct IMA hash already set because accessing it will
> > > cause setting security.ima again which triggers fixing security.evm
> > > thanks to security_inode_post_setxattr->evm_update_evmxattr.
> > >
> > > Let's use the same mechanism to fix security.evm for a file with IMA
> > > signature.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Coiby Xu <coxu@redhat.com>
> >
> > Agreed, re-writing the file signature stored as security.ima would force
> > security.evm to be updated.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm missing something. ima_appraise_measurement() first verifies
> > the existing security.evm xattr, before verifying the security.ima xattr. If
> > the EVM HMAC fails to verify, it immediately exits ima_appraise_measurement().
> > security.ima in this case is never verified.
> >
> > This patch seems to address the case where the existing security.evm is valid,
> > but the file signature stored in security.ima is invalid. (To get to the new
> > code, the "status" flag is not INTEGRITY_PASS.) Re-writing the same invalid
> > file signature would solve an invalid security.evm, but not an invalid IMA file
> > signature. What am I missing?
>
> Hi, Mimi,
>
> Thanks for raising the question! This patch is to address the case where
> IMA signature is already added but security.evm doesn't yet exist. So
> EVM HMAC fails to verify but there is no exiting
> ima_appraise_measurement immediately.
>
> And you are right that re-writing an invalid IMA file won't fix an
> invalid IMA file signature. And even when IMA signature is valid, the
> verification may fail because the key is missing from .ima keyring. This
> happens because we need to turn off secure boot to enable fix mode. As a
> result, CA keys won't be loaded into .machine keyring.
> Btw, if I'm not
> mistaken, current IMA code assumes we are not supposed to fix IMA file
> signature.
Right, unlike file hashes, new or the same file signature can be written, but
cannot be "fixed" in the literal sense, as that would require calculating the
file hash and signing it with a private key.
This patch triggers "fixing" the EVM HMAC by re-writing the existing IMA file
signature. I assume the same result could be achieved by simply re-installing
the file signature. In both cases, the EVM HMAC key needs to exist and be
loaded.
>
> >
> > > ---
> > > security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++------
> > > 1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c b/security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c
> > > index f435eff4667f..18c3907c5e44 100644
> > > --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c
> > > +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_appraise.c
> > > @@ -595,12 +595,27 @@ int ima_appraise_measurement(enum ima_hooks func, struct ima_iint_cache *iint,
> > > integrity_audit_msg(audit_msgno, inode, filename,
> > > op, cause, rc, 0);
> > > } else if (status != INTEGRITY_PASS) {
> > > - /* Fix mode, but don't replace file signatures. */
> > > - if ((ima_appraise & IMA_APPRAISE_FIX) && !try_modsig &&
> > > - (!xattr_value ||
> > > - xattr_value->type != EVM_IMA_XATTR_DIGSIG)) {
> > > - if (!ima_fix_xattr(dentry, iint))
> > > - status = INTEGRITY_PASS;
> > > + /*
> > > + * Fix mode, but don't replace file signatures.
> > > + *
> > > + * When EVM fix mode is also enabled, security.evm will be
> > > + * fixed automatically when security.ima is set because of
> > > + * security_inode_post_setxattr->evm_update_evmxattr.
> > > + */
> > > + if ((ima_appraise & IMA_APPRAISE_FIX) && !try_modsig) {
> > > + if (!xattr_value ||
> > > + xattr_value->type != EVM_IMA_XATTR_DIGSIG) {
> > > + if (ima_fix_xattr(dentry, iint))
> > > + status = INTEGRITY_PASS;
> > > + } else if (xattr_value->type == EVM_IMA_XATTR_DIGSIG &&
> > > + evm_revalidate_status(XATTR_NAME_IMA)) {
> > > + if (!__vfs_setxattr_noperm(&nop_mnt_idmap,
> > > + dentry,
> > > + XATTR_NAME_IMA,
> > > + xattr_value,
> > > + xattr_len, 0))
> > > + status = INTEGRITY_PASS;
> > > + }
> > > }
> > >
> > > /*
> > >
> > > base-commit: b320789d6883cc00ac78ce83bccbfe7ed58afcf0
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 4:19 [PATCH] ima: setting security.ima to fix security.evm for a file with IMA signature Coiby Xu
2025-09-09 15:31 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-10 1:20 ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-10 11:15 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2025-09-30 2:31 ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-15 21:05 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-24 8:03 ` Coiby Xu
2025-09-25 3:27 ` Mimi Zohar
2025-09-30 2:28 ` Coiby Xu
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