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From: "Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)" <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>, "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
	"m.szyprowski@samsung.com" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v7 0/3] make dma_alloc_coherent NUMA-aware by per-NUMA CMA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 20:47:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0a1636c9a3cc4bafb64ef43bed19f2fe@hisilicon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e47f4bfd-3af7-f682-23a1-51800f992d35@oracle.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 7:27 AM
> To: 'Mike Kravetz' <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>; hch@lst.de;
> m.szyprowski@samsung.com; robin.murphy@arm.com; will@kernel.org;
> ganapatrao.kulkarni@cavium.com; catalin.marinas@arm.com;
> akpm@linux-foundation.org
> Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Zengtao (B) <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>;
> huangdaode <huangdaode@huawei.com>; Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v7 0/3] make dma_alloc_coherent NUMA-aware by
> per-NUMA CMA
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Kravetz [mailto:mike.kravetz@oracle.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:53 AM
> > To: Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>; hch@lst.de;
> > m.szyprowski@samsung.com; robin.murphy@arm.com; will@kernel.org;
> > ganapatrao.kulkarni@cavium.com; catalin.marinas@arm.com;
> > akpm@linux-foundation.org
> > Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org;
> > linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; Zengtao (B) <prime.zeng@hisilicon.com>;
> > huangdaode <huangdaode@huawei.com>; Linuxarm
> <linuxarm@huawei.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] make dma_alloc_coherent NUMA-aware by
> > per-NUMA CMA
> >
> > Hi Barry,
> > Sorry for jumping in so late.
> >
> > On 8/21/20 4:33 AM, Barry Song wrote:
> > >
> > > with per-numa CMA, smmu will get memory from local numa node to save
> > command
> > > queues and page tables. that means dma_unmap latency will be shrunk
> > much.
> >
> > Since per-node CMA areas for hugetlb was introduced, I have been thinking
> > about the limited number of CMA areas.  In most configurations, I believe
> > it is limited to 7.  And, IIRC it is not something that can be changed at
> > runtime, you need to reconfig and rebuild to increase the number.  In
> contrast
> > some configs have NODES_SHIFT set to 10.  I wasn't too worried because of
> > the limited hugetlb use case.  However, this series is adding another user
> > of per-node CMA areas.
> >
> > With more users, should try to sync up number of CMA areas and number of
> > nodes?  Or, perhaps I am worrying about nothing?
> 
> Hi Mike,
> The current limitation is 8. If the server has 4 nodes and we enable both
> pernuma
> CMA and hugetlb, the last node will fail to get one cma area as the default
> global cma area will take 1 of 8. So users need to change menuconfig.
> If the server has 8 nodes, we enable one of pernuma cma and hugetlb, one
> node
> will fail to get cma.
> 
> We may set the default number of CMA areas as 8+MAX_NODES(if hugetlb
> enabled) +
> MAX_NODES(if pernuma cma enabled) if we don't expect users to change
> config, but
> right now hugetlb has not an option in Kconfig to enable or disable like
> pernuma cma
> has DMA_PERNUMA_CMA.

I would prefer we make some changes like:

config CMA_AREAS
	int "Maximum count of the CMA areas"
	depends on CMA
+	default 19 if NUMA
	default 7
	help
	  CMA allows to create CMA areas for particular purpose, mainly,
	  used as device private area. This parameter sets the maximum
	  number of CMA area in the system.

-	  If unsure, leave the default value "7".
+	  If unsure, leave the default value "7" or "19" if NUMA is used.

1+ CONFIG_CMA_AREAS should be quite enough for almost all servers in the markets.

If 2 numa nodes, and both hugetlb cma and pernuma cma is enabled, we need 2*2 + 1 = 5
If 4 numa nodes, and both hugetlb cma and pernuma cma is enabled, we need 2*4 + 1 = 9    -> default ARM64 config.
If 8 numa nodes, and both hugetlb cma and pernuma cma is enabled, we need 2*8 + 1 = 17

The default value is supporting the most common case and is not going to support those servers
with NODES_SHIFT=10, they can make their own config just like users need to increase CMA_AREAS
if they add many cma areas in device tree in a system even without NUMA.

How do you think, mike?

Thanks
Barry
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-21 11:33 [PATCH v7 0/3] make dma_alloc_coherent NUMA-aware by per-NUMA CMA Barry Song
2020-08-21 11:33 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] dma-contiguous: provide the ability to reserve per-numa CMA Barry Song
2020-08-21 14:28   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-21 19:14     ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-08-21 16:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-08-21 19:17     ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-08-21 11:33 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] arm64: mm: reserve per-numa CMA to localize coherent dma buffers Barry Song
2020-08-21 11:33 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] mm: cma: use CMA_MAX_NAME to define the length of cma name array Barry Song
2020-08-21 17:52 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] make dma_alloc_coherent NUMA-aware by per-NUMA CMA Mike Kravetz
2020-08-21 19:29   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2020-08-21 20:47   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) [this message]
2020-08-21 21:10     ` Mike Kravetz

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