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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [v2 17/25] KVM: kvm-vfio: User API for VT-d Posted-Interrupts
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:45:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1418312726.1095.162.camel@bling.home> (raw)
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On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 05:55 +0000, Wu, Feng wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org]
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:21 PM
> > To: Wu, Feng
> > Cc: Eric Auger; tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org; mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org; hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org;
> > x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; gleb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org;
> > dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org; joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; jiang.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org;
> > linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org;
> > kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> > Subject: Re: [v2 17/25] KVM: kvm-vfio: User API for VT-d Posted-Interrupts
> > 
> > On Mon, 2014-12-08 at 04:58 +0000, Wu, Feng wrote:
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: kvm-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:kvm-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Eric Auger
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:05 PM
> > > > To: Wu, Feng; tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org; mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org; hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org;
> > > > x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; gleb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org;
> > > > dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org; joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org;
> > > > jiang.liu-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org
> > > > Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org;
> > > > kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [v2 17/25] KVM: kvm-vfio: User API for VT-d Posted-Interrupts
> > > >
> > > > Hi Feng,
> > > > On 12/03/2014 08:39 AM, Feng Wu wrote:
> > > > > This patch adds and documents a new attribute
> > > > > KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE_POSTING_IRQ in KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE
> > group.
> > > > > This new attribute is used for VT-d Posted-Interrupts.
> > > > >
> > > > > When guest OS changes the interrupt configuration for an
> > > > > assigned device, such as, MSI/MSIx data/address fields,
> > > > > QEMU will use this IRQ attribute to tell KVM to update the
> > > > > related IRTE according the VT-d Posted-Interrrupts Specification,
> > > > > such as, the guest vector should be updated in the related IRTE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Feng Wu <feng.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  Documentation/virtual/kvm/devices/vfio.txt |    9 +++++++++
> > > > >  include/uapi/linux/kvm.h                   |   10 ++++++++++
> > > > >  2 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/devices/vfio.txt
> > > > b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/devices/vfio.txt
> > > > > index f7aff29..41e12b7 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/devices/vfio.txt
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/devices/vfio.txt
> > > > > @@ -42,3 +42,12 @@ activated before VFIO_DEVICE_SET_IRQS has
> > been
> > > > called to trigger the IRQ
> > > > >  or associate an eventfd to it. Unforwarding can only be called while the
> > > > >  signaling has been disabled with VFIO_DEVICE_SET_IRQS. If this
> > condition
> > > > is
> > > > >  not satisfied, the command returns an -EBUSY.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +  KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE_POSTING_IRQ: Use posted interrtups
> > > > mechanism to post
> > > > typo
> > > > > +                                   the IRQ to guests.
> > > > > +For this attribute, kvm_device_attr.addr points to a kvm_vfio_dev_irq
> > > > struct.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +When guest OS changes the interrupt configuration for an assigned
> > device,
> > > > > +such as, MSI/MSIx data/address fields, QEMU will use this IRQ attribute
> > > > > +to tell KVM to update the related IRTE according the VT-d
> > > > Posted-Interrrupts
> > > > > +Specification, such as, the guest vector should be updated in the related
> > > > IRTE.
> > > > For my curiosity are there any restrictions about the instant at which
> > > > the change can be done?
> > > > I do not get here how you deactivate the posting?
> > >
> > > The current method is if the hardware supports interrupts posting, we will
> > > use it instead of interrupts remapping, since it has good performance. Why
> > > do I need deactivate interrupts posting?
> > >
> > > Here is the reply to Alex for the same question:
> > > "In fact, I don't think we need to stop the posted-interrupts. For setting
> > > posted interrupts, we update the related IRTE according to the new
> > > format. If the guest reboots, or unload the drivers, or some other
> > > operations, the msi/msix will be disabled first, in this path, the irq
> > > will be disabled the related IRTE is not used anymore."
> > 
> > Right, and I'm still not sure I agree with that reasoning.  We need to
> > build the kernel interface to be generic, not tailored for a specific
> > userspace.  I don't really feel comfortable having something that can't
> > be disabled via a similar path to it being enabled.  For instance, what
> > about a dynamic debug interface where we want to enable tracing and see
> > each interrupt injected into the guest.  At that point we'd want to
> > disabled posted interrupts and direct KVM injection and route via QEMU.
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Alex
> 
> I am not quite understand why we need to debug the software
> delivery path for interrupt when PI is used, in this case, the software
> injection code will have no chance to execute. If we don't want the use
> PI, we can disable it from kernel command line.

Well, first off, I think it's just good interface design that if we
introduce the ability to enable something we also provide the ability to
disable it without making assumption about how a specific userspace is
expected to make use of the interface.  In this specific case, you're
missing the "dynamic" aspect of the switch.  What if we want to attach
gdb to the guest and at that point disable all KVM accelerations for an
assigned device so that we can see every register access and every
interrupt?  I don't think the interface proposed here allows for that
because it expects the guest to switch to a different interrupt mode for
the device in order to disable PI.  Don't design the interface tailored
only for a specific use case.  Thanks,

Alex

> > > > > diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> > > > > index a269a42..7d98650 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
> > > > > @@ -949,6 +949,7 @@ struct kvm_device_attr {
> > > > >  #define  KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE			2
> > > > >  #define   KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE_FORWARD_IRQ			1
> > > > >  #define   KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE_UNFORWARD_IRQ			2
> > > > > +#define   KVM_DEV_VFIO_DEVICE_POSTING_IRQ			3
> > > > Maybe we should align our naming verb vs verbing here?
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Eric
> > >
> > > No problem, I will align my patch in the next version. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Feng
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  enum kvm_device_type {
> > > > >  	KVM_DEV_TYPE_FSL_MPIC_20	= 1,
> > > > > @@ -973,6 +974,15 @@ struct kvm_arch_forwarded_irq {
> > > > >  	__u32 gsi; /* gsi, ie. virtual IRQ number */
> > > > >  };
> > > > >
> > > > > +struct kvm_vfio_dev_irq {
> > > > > +	__u32	argsz;
> > > > > +	__u32	fd;		/* file descriptor of the VFIO device */
> > > > > +	__u32	index;		/* VFIO device IRQ index */
> > > > > +	__u32	start;
> > > > > +	__u32	count;
> > > > > +	__u32	gsi[];		/* gsi, ie. virtual IRQ number */
> > > > > +};
> > > > > +
> > > > >  /*
> > > > >   * ioctls for VM fds
> > > > >   */
> > > > >
> > > >
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> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-11 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-03  7:39 [v2 00/25] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
     [not found] ` <1417592394-24343-1-git-send-email-feng.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 01/25] genirq: Introduce irq_set_vcpu_affinity() to target an interrupt to a VCPU Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 02/25] iommu: Add new member capability to struct irq_remap_ops Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 03/25] iommu, x86: Define new irte structure for VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 04/25] iommu, x86: Implement irq_set_vcpu_affinity for intel_ir_chip Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 05/25] x86, irq: Implement irq_set_vcpu_affinity for pci_msi_ir_controller Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 06/25] iommu, x86: No need to migrating irq for VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 07/25] iommu, x86: Add cap_pi_support() to detect VT-d PI capability Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 08/25] iommu, x86: Add intel_irq_remapping_capability() for Intel Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 09/25] iommu, x86: define irq_remapping_cap() Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 10/25] KVM: change struct pi_desc for VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 11/25] KVM: Add some helper functions for Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 12/25] KVM: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 13/25] KVM: Define a new interface kvm_find_dest_vcpu() for VT-d PI Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 14/25] KVM: Get Posted-Interrupts descriptor address from struct kvm_vcpu Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 15/25] KVM: Make struct kvm_irq_routing_table accessible Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 16/25] KVM: make kvm_set_msi_irq() public Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 17/25] KVM: kvm-vfio: User API for VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
     [not found]     ` <1417592394-24343-18-git-send-email-feng.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 14:04       ` Eric Auger
     [not found]         ` <548069F6.7020308-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08  4:58           ` Wu, Feng
     [not found]             ` <E959C4978C3B6342920538CF579893F0022E2DD7-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08  5:21               ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                 ` <1418016076.1095.30.camel-xdHQ/5r00wBBDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 11:38                   ` Wu, Feng
2014-12-11  5:55                   ` Wu, Feng
     [not found]                     ` <E959C4978C3B6342920538CF579893F0022EFA1E-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11 15:45                       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 18/25] KVM: kvm-vfio: implement the VFIO skeleton " Feng Wu
     [not found]     ` <1417592394-24343-19-git-send-email-feng.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 15:35       ` Eric Auger
     [not found]         ` <54807F5C.4050607-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08  4:58           ` Wu, Feng
     [not found]             ` <E959C4978C3B6342920538CF579893F0022E2DC0-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08  5:12               ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                 ` <1418015529.1095.26.camel-xdHQ/5r00wBBDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-08 10:15                   ` Eric Auger
     [not found]                     ` <54857A4A.5030003-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-09 11:51                       ` Wu, Feng
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 19/25] KVM: x86: kvm-vfio: VT-d posted-interrupts setup Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 20/25] x86, irq: Define a global vector for VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 21/25] KVM: Update Posted-Interrupts descriptor during vCPU scheduling Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 22/25] KVM: Change NDST field after " Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 23/25] KVM: Add the handler for Wake-up Vector Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 24/25] KVM: Suppress posted-interrupt when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2014-12-03  7:39   ` [v2 25/25] iommu/vt-d: Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2014-12-08 13:36   ` [v2 00/25] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Wu, Feng

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