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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org
Cc: "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 29/29] x86/tsc: Switch to perf-based hardlockup detector if TSC become unstable
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 22:14:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1652184158.yhzceh3nwk.astroid@bobo.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220506000008.30892-30-ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>

Excerpts from Ricardo Neri's message of May 6, 2022 10:00 am:
> The HPET-based hardlockup detector relies on the TSC to determine if an
> observed NMI interrupt was originated by HPET timer. Hence, this detector
> can no longer be used with an unstable TSC.
> 
> In such case, permanently stop the HPET-based hardlockup detector and
> start the perf-based detector.
> 
> Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
> Cc: "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
> Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
> Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
> Cc: x86@kernel.org
> Suggested-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Reviewed-by: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
> ---
> Changes since v5:
>  * Relocated the delcaration of hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf() to
>    x86/nmi.h It does not depend on HPET.
>  * Removed function stub. The shim hardlockup detector is always for x86.
> 
> Changes since v4:
>  * Added a stub version of hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf() for
>    !CONFIG_HPET_TIMER. (lkp)
>  * Reconfigure the whole lockup detector instead of unconditionally
>    starting the perf-based hardlockup detector.
> 
> Changes since v3:
>  * None
> 
> Changes since v2:
>  * Introduced this patch.
> 
> Changes since v1:
>  * N/A
> ---
>  arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h     | 6 ++++++
>  arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c          | 2 ++
>  arch/x86/kernel/watchdog_hld.c | 6 ++++++
>  3 files changed, 14 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h
> index 4a0d5b562c91..47752ff67d8b 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/nmi.h
> @@ -63,4 +63,10 @@ void stop_nmi(void);
>  void restart_nmi(void);
>  void local_touch_nmi(void);
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR
> +void hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf(void);
> +#else
> +static inline void hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf(void) { }
> +#endif
> +
>  #endif /* _ASM_X86_NMI_H */
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> index cc1843044d88..74772ffc79d1 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c
> @@ -1176,6 +1176,8 @@ void mark_tsc_unstable(char *reason)
>  
>  	clocksource_mark_unstable(&clocksource_tsc_early);
>  	clocksource_mark_unstable(&clocksource_tsc);
> +
> +	hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf();
>  }
>  
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(mark_tsc_unstable);
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/watchdog_hld.c b/arch/x86/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> index ef11f0af4ef5..7940977c6312 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/watchdog_hld.c
> @@ -83,3 +83,9 @@ void watchdog_nmi_start(void)
>  	if (detector_type == X86_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR_HPET)
>  		hardlockup_detector_hpet_start();
>  }
> +
> +void hardlockup_detector_switch_to_perf(void)
> +{
> +	detector_type = X86_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR_PERF;

Another possible problem along the same lines here,
isn't your watchdog still running at this point? And
it uses detector_type in the switch.

> +	lockup_detector_reconfigure();

Actually the detector_type switch is used in some
functions called by lockup_detector_reconfigure()
e.g., watchdog_nmi_stop, so this seems buggy even
without concurrent watchdog.

Is this switching a good idea in general? The admin
has asked for non-standard option because they want
more PMU counterss available and now it eats a
counter potentially causing a problem rather than
detecting one.

I would rather just disable with a warning if it were
up to me. If you *really* wanted to be fancy then
allow admin to re-enable via proc maybe.

Thanks,
Nick

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-10 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-05 23:59 [PATCH v6 00/29] x86: Implement an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 01/29] irq/matrix: Expose functions to allocate the best CPU for new vectors Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 19:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:09     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 02/29] x86/apic: Add irq_cfg::delivery_mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 19:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:26     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 03/29] x86/apic/msi: Set the delivery mode individually for each IRQ Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 20:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-12  0:38     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 04/29] x86/apic: Add the X86_IRQ_ALLOC_AS_NMI irq allocation flag Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 05/29] x86/apic/vector: Do not allocate vectors for NMIs Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 18:03     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-13 20:50       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 23:45         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14  8:15           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 06/29] x86/apic/vector: Implement support for NMI delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 07/29] iommu/vt-d: Clear the redirection hint when the destination mode is physical Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 08/29] iommu/vt-d: Rework prepare_irte() to support per-IRQ delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 09/29] iommu/vt-d: Set the IRTE delivery mode individually for each IRQ Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 10/29] iommu/vt-d: Implement minor tweaks for NMI irqs Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 18:07     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 11/29] iommu/amd: Expose [set|get]_dev_entry_bit() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 12/29] iommu/amd: Enable NMIPass when allocating an NMI irq Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:26   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 19:01     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 13/29] iommu/amd: Compose MSI messages for NMI irqs in non-IR format Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 19:03     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 14/29] x86/hpet: Expose hpet_writel() in header Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 15/29] x86/hpet: Add helper function hpet_set_comparator_periodic() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06 21:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06 21:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 21:29       ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-13 21:19     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14  8:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 22:54         ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 16/29] x86/hpet: Prepare IRQ assignments to use the X86_ALLOC_AS_NMI flag Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 17/29] x86/hpet: Reserve an HPET channel for the hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 18/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Define a generic function to detect hardlockups Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 19/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup detector from perf Ricardo Neri
2022-05-05 23:59 ` [PATCH v6 20/29] init/main: Delay initialization of the lockup detector after smp_init() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 10:38   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-13 23:16     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-20  0:25       ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 21/29] x86/nmi: Add an NMI_WATCHDOG NMI handler category Ricardo Neri
2022-05-09 13:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 18:41     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 22/29] x86/watchdog/hardlockup: Add an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-09 14:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-13 22:16     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-14 14:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 23/29] x86/watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Determine if HPET timer caused NMI Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 24/29] watchdog/hardlockup: Use parse_option_str() to handle "nmi_watchdog" Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 10:46   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-13 23:17     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 25/29] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Only enable the HPET watchdog via a boot parameter Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 26/29] x86/watchdog: Add a shim hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 27/29] watchdog: Expose lockup_detector_reconfigure() Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 28/29] x86/tsc: Restart NMI watchdog after refining tsc_khz Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 11:16   ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-05-10 11:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-17 22:53       ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-17 22:08     ` Ricardo Neri
2022-05-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v6 29/29] x86/tsc: Switch to perf-based hardlockup detector if TSC become unstable Ricardo Neri
2022-05-10 12:14   ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2022-05-17  3:09     ` Ricardo Neri

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