From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Thierry Reding
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Robin Murphy <Robin.Murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 6/8] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:38:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1926348.VsVWqO766S@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141217150158.GF870-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
On Wednesday 17 December 2014 15:01:58 Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:27:30PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > On 17/12/14 12:09, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > I think that's a slightly different case. The `grouping' in the DT, is on a
> > > per-master basis where a master may have a set of StreamIDs, which can be
> > > expressed in a more efficient (per-IOMMU) manner that cannot easily be
> > > determined at runtime.
> >
> > I'm pretty convinced that automatic SMR allocation is solvable; I was
> > planning to take a look at it soon, once I've finished warming up the
> > dormant mathematician in me on implementing the OF group allocator. So
> > far I'm lucky that stream indexing is sufficient for the bits of our
> > hardware that actually work.
>
> Hmm, a few of us have looked at that and failed, so I'm all ears if you
> think you can do it. The main issue is that you need *complete* knowledge
> of the allocated StreamID space before you can safely create any SMR entry
> unless you restrict yourself to consecutive, power-of-2 sized ID regions
> for each master (which doesn't match reality, unfortunately).
Right, scanning the entire device tree in the SMMU driver is
definitely something to avoid.
> > > The problem with all of this is how we distinguish the different ID formats
> > > in the `iommus' device-tree property. For the ARM SMMU, we could have:
> > >
> > > (1) [easy case] A device has a list of StreamIDs
> > >
> > > (2) A device has a list of SMR mask/value pairs
> > >
> > > (3) A (bus) device has a range translation for a downstream bus (e.g.
> > > a PCI host controller which needs to convert RequesterID to StreamID).
> > >
> > > From the SMMU driver's perspective, they will all look like of_xlate calls
> > > unless we augment the generic IOMMU bindings with extra properties to
> > > identify the format. It also makes it difficult to pick a sensible value for
> > > #iommu-cells, as it depends on the format.
> >
> > I thoroughly dislike the idea, but one /could/ simply abuse the generic
> > bindings well within the current framework, e.g.
> >
> > #1: iommus = <&smmu 0 streamID 0 0>, <&smmu 0 streamID 0 0>, ...;
> > #2: iommus = <&smmu 1 mask value 0>;
> > #3: iommus = <&smmu 2 start end offset>;
> >
> > and have a big complicated of_xlate that knows the secret. I don't think
> > it would be unreasonable to constrain all masters on the same SMMU to
> > use the same format either - that way you can lose the type indicator
> > and the padding and the driver simply inspects #iommu-cells in
> > of_iommu_init and sets up that instance to take the right path in its
> > of_xlate calls later. Having a handful of single-stream-ID masters
> > behind the same SMMU as a whacking great bus controller with a massive
> > range seems like the kind of system-designer-insanity we should
> > emphatically NOT be looking to accommodate if we can possibly help it.
> >
> > That said, for the time being I see definite use-cases for #1, which
> > already works, and #3, for which I really think we should be looking to
> > add a parallel generic "iommu-ranges" or "iommu-bus-range" binding for
> > bus controllers, rather than trying to overload "iommus" beyond
> > describing actual bus masters.
>
> Yeah, let's avoid overloading the current bindings too much. Adding the
> ranges property makes perfect sense, I'm just trying to to straighten
> out how the "iommus" property should differ depending on the presence of
> SMR groups.
Is a range something that is defined in the hardware spec, or is that
just what you expect the PCI host controllers to use?
Arnd
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2014-12-01 16:57 [PATCH v6 0/8] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
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2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 1/8] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1417453034-21379-2-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-01 23:54 ` Rob Herring
2014-12-02 10:30 ` Pantelis Antoniou
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2014-12-02 9:23 ` Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <547D84F4.8030204-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 9:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-02 9:43 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-02 12:05 ` Thierry Reding
2014-12-02 14:16 ` Grant Likely
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2014-12-03 19:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-04 9:49 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20141204094953.GA13224-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 10:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-04 10:21 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20141204102127.GF13224-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 11:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-04 11:25 ` Grant Likely
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2014-12-04 11:52 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-04 12:43 ` Grant Likely
2014-12-04 12:26 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-04 12:42 ` Grant Likely
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2014-12-04 13:43 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-04 13:58 ` Grant Likely
2014-12-04 14:49 ` Thierry Reding
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2014-12-04 17:42 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-04 17:58 ` Grant Likely
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2014-12-04 19:42 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-05 12:10 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-05 12:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-05 12:35 ` Robin Murphy
[not found] ` <5481A688.4030606-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 13:06 ` Grant Likely
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2014-12-05 13:18 ` Thierry Reding
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2014-12-05 13:21 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6vqstoCBiJ7TLvhNt+40TUJRB2ORoRKKtorhM-ETHXu0A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 13:31 ` Thierry Reding
2014-12-05 13:49 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-12-04 12:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 2/8] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
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2014-12-01 22:58 ` Rob Herring
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2014-12-02 9:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 3/8] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding an OF device Will Deacon
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 4/8] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 5/8] iommu: fix initialization without 'add_device' callback Will Deacon
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 6/8] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
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2014-12-01 23:06 ` Rob Herring
2014-12-10 14:52 ` Rob Clark
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2014-12-10 15:08 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-10 15:54 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-10 15:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-14 15:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-14 15:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 17:10 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 16:40 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-15 17:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 18:09 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-16 12:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 12:09 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-17 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 14:45 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-17 15:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-17 17:17 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-17 19:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-21 10:04 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-22 13:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 18:57 ` Will Deacon
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2015-01-07 19:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 10:53 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-17 14:27 ` Robin Murphy
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2014-12-17 15:01 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-17 15:38 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-12-17 17:20 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-17 0:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-14 15:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 11:32 ` Will Deacon
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2014-12-17 0:19 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-17 11:14 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 7/8] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-12-01 16:57 ` [PATCH v6 8/8] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
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2015-01-14 9:00 ` Alexandre Courbot
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2015-01-15 8:28 ` Thierry Reding
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2015-01-20 15:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-01-20 15:19 ` Will Deacon
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2015-01-20 13:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-01-19 16:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-20 16:41 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-01-19 12:36 ` Thierry Reding
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2015-01-19 15:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-19 16:21 ` Thierry Reding
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2015-01-19 17:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-20 13:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-01-19 12:49 ` Thierry Reding
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2015-01-20 14:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-05 7:12 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Olof Johansson
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2014-12-05 12:11 ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 0:24 ` [PATCH/RFC] iommu/ipmmu-vmsa: Use DT-based instantiation Laurent Pinchart
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