From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:57:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140902105730.GH25379@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54059F05.2090901-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:42:13AM +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> On 2014-09-02 10:56, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2014 10:48:02 Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> >>> -- I have concerns that allocating one domain per master might be
> >>> too much, but it's hard to tell without an IOMMU driver ported over.
> >> One domain per master is IMHO a sane default configuration. The only default
> >> alternative I see is to have only one domain (related with dma-mapping
> >> subsystem) and bind all devices to it. However I really don't see any
> >> disadvantage of having separate domain per each master and such
> >> configuration
> >> gives devices better separation.
> > I was expecting that the dma-mapping implementation would by default use
> > one domain for all devices, since that is what the simpler IOMMUs without
> > domain support have to do anyway.
> >
> > For isolation purposes, it can only help to have more domains, but
> > I would guess that there is some space overhead in maintaining lots
> > of page tables.
>
> I'm okay with both approaches (separate domain for each device vs. single
> common domain for all devices). Maybe this can be some kind of Kconfig
> option added to DMA debugging? Separation might be really helpful when
> debugging strange device behavior.
One potential problem with a single domain is when you have multiple
instances of a given IOMMU, each with different hardware restrictions.
Then you can end up with multiple sets of page tables for the domain
which, although not impossible to work with, is a bit of a mess.
I think having one domain per IOMMU instance would make the most sense,
but then you have to teach more of the stack about the IOMMU topology. I
think we'll get there in the end, but that's a little way off right now.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-02 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-29 15:54 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-2-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 7:52 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:36 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 6:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:47 ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 15:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-3-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 14:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:20 ` Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding a device with a set of IDs Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-4-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 8:13 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:34 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140901163400.GK24594-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 17:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-5-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 8:29 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:40 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140901164000.GM24594-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 20:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:03 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140902100342.GG25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:05 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140902130508.GK25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 20:59 ` jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM
[not found] ` <20140902205941.GA26123-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-03 9:45 ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 15:03 ` Varun Sethi
[not found] ` <b8484a1ea45846bbaa8512d4597b9e65-AZ66ij2kwaacCcN9WK45f+O6mTEJWrR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 15:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 10:51 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 11:03 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140902110340.GI25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 19:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:55 ` Varun Sethi
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
[not found] ` <1409327670-3495-6-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 14:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-02 6:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <540562F9.2030508-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 8:31 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20140902083138.GA25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 8:48 ` Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <54058442.2070204-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 8:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:42 ` Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <54059F05.2090901-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 10:57 ` Will Deacon [this message]
[not found] ` <20140902105730.GH25379-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:24 ` Marek Szyprowski
[not found] ` <5405B6F2.1060105-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02 12:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 21:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 12:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:30 ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:11 ` Marek Szyprowski
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