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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:02:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141027160216.GY8768@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14012645.olm9XxYoII@avalon>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 11:30:33AM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Will,

Hey Laurent,

> On Monday 27 October 2014 10:51:59 Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 01:53:59PM +0100, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 22 September 2014 18:50:27 Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:29:10AM +0100, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > Agreed. I wonder how useful it is to know the set of IOMMU instances
> > > > > that each device can master through. Wouldn't it be more useful to
> > > > > keep a list of master interfaces for each device? The set of IOMMU
> > > > > instances can trivially be derived from that.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm struggling to think how that would look. What do you mean by `master
> > > > interfaces' in terms of the code we have in Linux? At the end of the
> > > > day, the list of IOMMU instances (i.e. iommu_dma_mapping) exists because
> > > > you and Laurent have use-cases involving devices mastering through
> > > > multiple IOMMUs. If it doesn't work for you, it might be best for you to
> > > > send me the patch ;)
> > > 
> > > Just for the record, I've brought up the topic of masters being served by
> > > multiple IOMMUs, but don't have a use case for it (yet at least). I do
> > > have masters served through multiple streams with separate stream IDs, but
> > > all by the same IOMMU.
> > 
> > Ok. I spoke to Arnd, David and Joerg at LPC and the consensus was that the
> > DMA-mapping API should *not* be exposed to the details of masters that
> > master through multiple IOMMUs. Instead, that should be abstracted by the
> > device API by exposing that device as a single struct device.
> 
> I'm not sure to follow you here. Aren't we already exposing masters that 
> master through multiple IOMMUs as single instances of struct device ?

Hmm, yes, now you've confused me too! The conclusion was certainly that
dma-mapping should not be the one dealing with the I/O topology. Domain
allocation would then be an iommu callback (something like
->get_default_domain), but the rest of the details weren't fleshed out.

Joerg?

> > So, that's certainly an area that needs more work and I'll drop the limited
> > support I'd cooked up from this patch set in the next version.
> 
> How about masters connected to multiple stream IDs of the same IOMMU ?

That should still be handled, as I believe that will be a common case.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-27 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-12 16:34 [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <1410539695-29128-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
2014-09-18 14:31     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]       ` <541AECDA.1000805-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22 17:35         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding an OF device Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-4-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-15 11:57       ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]         ` <5416D432.8020107-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  1:39           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-5-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:13       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:13         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140922171352.GF7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 13:12             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-6-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-18 11:17       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22  9:29         ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 17:50           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20140922175027.GK7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-14 12:53               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 10:51                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20141027105158.GE8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 11:12                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-10-27 11:30                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-27 16:02                       ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20141027160216.GY8768-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 16:33                           ` jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM
2014-09-22 17:46         ` Will Deacon
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-7-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22  9:36       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-22 11:40           ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23  7:02               ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23  7:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-23  8:59                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 13:07                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 13:20                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-10-14 13:37                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:01                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-14 15:05                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-14 15:10                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-12 16:34   ` [RFC PATCH v3 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1410539695-29128-8-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-22  9:19       ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22  9:22         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 17:43         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20140922174337.GI7936-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23  7:14             ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 16:33               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20140924163338.GF16244-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25  6:40                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-30 16:00                     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                       ` <20140930160035.GM2548-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-01  8:46                         ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-03 15:08                           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20141003150850.GA32451-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-06  9:52                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 10:50                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-06 13:05                                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-16 11:40 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <541821AB.8040403-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-17  1:19     ` Will Deacon

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