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From: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-s390-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	sebott-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	Frank Blaschka
	<blaschka-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	schwidefsky-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH linux-next] iommu: add iommu for s390 platform
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 18:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141027180219.62b1ac4a@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141027162502.GB6202-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 17:25:02 +0100
Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 03:32:01PM +0100, Gerald Schaefer wrote:
> > Not sure if I understood the concept of IOMMU domains right. But if
> > this is about having multiple devices in the same domain, so that
> > iommu_ops->map will establish the _same_ DMA mapping on _all_
> > registered devices, then this should be possible.
> 
> Yes, this is what domains are about. A domain describes a set of DMA
> mappings which can be assigned to multiple devices in parallel.
> 
> > We cannot have shared DMA tables because each device gets its own
> > DMA table allocated during device initialization.
> 
> Is there some hardware reason for this or is that just an
> implementation detail that can be changed. In other words, does the
> hardware allow to use the same DMA table for multiple devices?

Yes, the HW would allow shared DMA tables, but the implementation would
need some non-trivial changes. For example, we have a per-device spin_lock
for DMA table manipulations and the code in arch/s390/pci/pci_dma.c knows
nothing about IOMMU domains or shared DMA tables, it just implements a set
of dma_map_ops.

Of course this would also go horribly wrong if a device was already
in use (via the current dma_map_ops), but I guess using devices through
the IOMMU_API prevents using them otherwise?

> 
> > But we could just keep all devices from one domain in a list and
> > then call dma_update_trans() for all devices during
> > iommu_ops->map/unmap.
> 
> This sounds complicated. Note that a device can be assigned to a
> domain that already has existing mappings. In this case you need to
> make sure that the new device inherits these mappings (and destroy
> all old mappings for the device that possibly exist).
> 
> I think it is much easier to use the same DMA table for all devices
> in a domain, if the hardware allows that.

Yes, in this case, having one DMA table per domain and sharing it
between all devices in that domain sounds like a good idea. However,
I can't think of any use case for this, and Frank probably had a very
special use case in mind where this scenario doesn't appear, hence the
"one device per domain" restriction.

So, if having multiple devices per domain is a must, then we probably
need a thorough rewrite of the arch/s390/pci/pci_dma.c code.

Gerald

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-27 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21 11:57 [PATCH linux-next] iommu: add iommu for s390 platform Frank Blaschka
     [not found] ` <1413892645-37657-1-git-send-email-blaschka-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-22 14:17   ` Joerg Roedel
2014-10-22 15:43     ` Frank Blaschka
     [not found]       ` <20141022154320.GA42442-++28Fms/gMmXI4yAdoq52KN5r0PSdgG1zG2AekJRRhI@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-23 12:41         ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]           ` <20141023124115.GB10053-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-23 14:04             ` Frank Blaschka
     [not found]               ` <20141023140437.GA31009-++28Fms/gMmXI4yAdoq52KN5r0PSdgG1zG2AekJRRhI@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-24 23:33                 ` Joerg Roedel
2014-10-27 14:32               ` Gerald Schaefer
2014-10-27 16:25                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                   ` <20141027162502.GB6202-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 17:02                     ` Gerald Schaefer [this message]
2014-10-27 17:58                       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                         ` <20141027175835.GC6202-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 18:18                           ` Gerald Schaefer

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