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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Generic IOMMU page table framework
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:05:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141201120534.GC18466@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6034238.mfQ54vFFKj@avalon>

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:03:08PM +0000, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Will,

Hi Laurent,

> On Thursday 27 November 2014 11:51:14 Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > This series introduces a generic IOMMU page table allocation framework,
> > implements support for ARM long-descriptors and then ports the arm-smmu
> > driver over to the new code.
> > 
> > There are a few reasons for doing this:
> > 
> >   - Page table code is hard, and I don't enjoy shopping
> > 
> >   - A number of IOMMUs actually use the same table format, but currently
> >     duplicate the code
> > 
> >   - It provides a CPU (and architecture) independent allocator, which
> >     may be useful for some systems where the CPU is using a different
> >     table format for its own mappings
> > 
> > As illustrated in the final patch, an IOMMU driver interacts with the
> > allocator by passing in a configuration structure describing the
> > input and output address ranges, the supported pages sizes and a set of
> > ops for performing various TLB invalidation and PTE flushing routines.
> > 
> > The LPAE code implements support for 4k/2M/1G, 16k/32M and 64k/512M
> > mappings, but I decided not to implement the contiguous bit in the
> > interest of trying to keep the code semi-readable. This could always be
> > added later, if needed.
> 
> Do you have any idea how much the contiguous bit can improve performances in 
> real use cases ?

It depends on the TLB, really. Given that the contiguous sized map directly
onto block sizes using different granules, I didn't see that the complexity
was worth it.

For example:

   4k granule : 16 contiguous entries => {64k, 32M, 16G}
  16k granule : 128 contiguous lvl3 entries => 2M
                32 contiguous lvl2 entries => 1G
  64k granule : 32 contiguous entries => {2M, 16G}

If we use block mappings, then we get:

   4k granule : 2M @ lvl2, 1G @ lvl1
  16k granule : 32M @ lvl2
  64k granule : 512M @ lvl2

so really, we only miss the ability to create 16G mappings. I doubt
that hardware even implements that size in the TLB (the contiguous bit
is only a hint).

On top of that, the contiguous bit leads to additional expense on unmap,
since you have extra TLB invalidation splitting the thing into
non-contiguous pages before you can do anything.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-01 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-27 11:51 [PATCH 0/4] Generic IOMMU page table framework Will Deacon
     [not found] ` <1417089078-22900-1-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-27 11:51   ` [PATCH 1/4] iommu: introduce generic page table allocation framework Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1417089078-22900-2-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-30 22:00       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-01 12:13         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20141201121338.GD18466-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-01 13:33             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-01 13:53               ` Will Deacon
2014-12-14 23:46       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15  9:45         ` Will Deacon
2014-11-27 11:51   ` [PATCH 2/4] iommu: add ARM LPAE page table allocator Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <1417089078-22900-3-git-send-email-will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-30 23:29       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-01 17:23         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]           ` <20141201172315.GI18466-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-01 20:21             ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-02  9:41               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20141202094156.GB9917-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 11:47                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-05 18:48                     ` Will Deacon
2014-12-02 22:41       ` Mitchel Humpherys
     [not found]         ` <vnkw8uipznbj.fsf-Yf+dfxj6toJBVvN7MMdr1KRtKmQZhJ7pQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-03 11:11           ` Will Deacon
2014-12-05 10:55       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]         ` <BN3PR0301MB12198CE5D736CDC6A221EDC2EA790-CEkquS/Gb81uuip9JPHoc5wN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05 18:48           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20141205184802.GH1203-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-14 17:45               ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                 ` <BN3PR0301MB1219D3161E4E9DB314FDD8FAEA6E0-CEkquS/Gb81uuip9JPHoc5wN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 13:30                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                     ` <20141215133020.GJ20738-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 15:43                       ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 16:35                         ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                           ` <BN3PR0301MB12194A8F5CFF870B7A124623EA6F0-CEkquS/Gb81uuip9JPHoc5wN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 17:25                             ` Will Deacon
2014-12-15 16:43                       ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                         ` <BN3PR0301MB12199C5CAD33E745CC7E51F4EA6F0-CEkquS/Gb81uuip9JPHoc5wN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 17:20                           ` Will Deacon
2014-11-27 11:51   ` [PATCH 3/4] iommu: add self-consistency tests to ARM LPAE IO " Will Deacon
2014-11-27 11:51   ` [PATCH 4/4] iommu/arm-smmu: make use of generic LPAE allocator Will Deacon
2014-11-30 22:03   ` [PATCH 0/4] Generic IOMMU page table framework Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-01 12:05     ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20141201120534.GC18466-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 13:47         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-02 13:53           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20141202135356.GF9917-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-02 22:29               ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-14 23:49   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 16:10     ` Will Deacon
     [not found]       ` <20141215161052.GM20738-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 17:33         ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-12-15 17:39           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20141215173911.GT20738-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-15 17:46               ` Laurent Pinchart

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