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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Stuart Yoder <stuart.yoder-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Varun Sethi <Varun.Sethi-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux IOMMU
	<iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: SMMU 2-stage support
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 13:41:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150417124128.GB29348@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR0301MB0748D6CF4A434A441442D84087E40-YrwGdl+PljkyhdUd3pz1uJwN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 04:46:59PM +0100, Stuart Yoder wrote:
> > > > So, whilst it's great that you're looking at the code, I'm not very keen on
> > > > merging anything until we have people committed to using it. Right now, the
> > > > only feedback I've had has been going in the para-virt direction and I don't
> > > > think we should do this "for fun".
> > > Freescale would be interested in using the vSMMU implementation. We have
> > > use cases for assigning devices to guest user space. Are you suggesting
> > > that you are more inclined to using the para virtualized approach?
> > 
> > I can see arguments either way; the vSMMU means that the guest can use the
> > same SMMU driver as the host but a para-virtualised approach could
> > theoretically be used across multiple SMMU implementations as well as
> > potentially being kinder on the TLB.
> 
> In the paravirt approach is the guest managing its own stage 1 
> page tables (read directly by the hardware SMMU)?

No; ideally the paravirtualised interface would abstract any details of
the hardware, including page table format. So you might have a "map" hvc
call that takes iova, (guest) phys, size, for example. Then the hypervisor
would manually collapse that into the current page tables using iommu_map.

> Is there anything written up anywhere sketching out how the paravirt
> approach would work?   Are there any limitations vs the vSMMU?

Not yet, and that's exactly the kind of research/investigation I'd like to
see happening before we commit ourselves one way or the other.

Will

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-17 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-18 17:04 SMMU 2-stage support Baptiste Reynal
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2015-02-18 18:56   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]     ` <20150218185600.GN22017-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-03  9:55       ` Baptiste Reynal
     [not found]         ` <CAN9JPjFvg=e948ZLLtrUTnvDp8UWHCX2NGB4iUEES733T9YytQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-13 10:41           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20150413104122.GC2869-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-14 13:32               ` Varun Sethi
     [not found]                 ` <BN3PR0301MB12194C697DBE9D721BC97F5DEAE60-CEkquS/Gb81uuip9JPHoc5wN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 16:17                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                     ` <20150415161739.GD18864-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 15:46                       ` Stuart Yoder
     [not found]                         ` <CY1PR0301MB0748D6CF4A434A441442D84087E40-YrwGdl+PljkyhdUd3pz1uJwN6zqB+hSMnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 12:41                           ` Will Deacon [this message]

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