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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Anup Patel <anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] iommu: Add capability IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:30:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170719113017.GH13642@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAALAos8nf-d5i74J7-sAJb2o9eFj2PVDeLLVd=wun+gW1ihXSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 04:56:38PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 04:49:00PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> > On 19/07/17 10:33, Anup Patel wrote:
> >> >> Some of the IOMMUs (such as ARM SMMU) are capable of bypassing
> >> >> transactions for which no IOMMU domain is configured.
> >> >>
> >> >> This patch adds IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS which can be used by IOMMU
> >> >> drivers to advertise transation bypass capability of an IOMMU.
> >> >
> >> > Whatever the intended semantics of this are, I can't help thinking it
> >> > would be better served by allowing callers to explicitly allocate their
> >> > own IOMMU_DOMAIN_IDENTITY domains. That would also be useful for the
> >> > problem we have with legacy virtio devices behind real IOMMUs.
> >>
> >> We want to use VFIO no-IOMMU mode for FlexRM device but
> >> currently it does not allow on our SOC because IOMMU ops are
> >> registered for platform bus.
> >
> > Why do you want to use no-IOMMU mode if you have an IOMMU, and why you do
> > think the individual IOMMU drivers are the place to implement this?
> >
> > NAK to the SMMU patches, for the reasons outlined by Robin.
> 
> We have limited number of SMRs on our SOC.
> 
> There are lot of devices for which we can potentially
> configure SMMU but then due to limited number of
> SMRs so we use SMMU only for certain devices.
> 
> For FlexRM device on our SOC, we don't intend to
> use SMMU hence we need VFIO no-IOMMU mode
> working for FlexRM device on our SOC.
> 
> Please re-consider your NAK.

I'm afraid it still stands for the current implementation. If you can't
solve the SMR restriction by grouping things appropriately (which would be
my strong preference), then I think you'll have to follow-up on Robin's
suggestion of implementing support for IDENTITY domains in VFIO for no-IOMMU
mode to be used even when an IOMMU is present.

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-19 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-19  9:33 [PATCH 0/5] FlexRM support in VFIO platform Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] iommu: Add capability IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS Anup Patel
     [not found]   ` <1500456838-18405-2-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 10:58     ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-19 11:19       ` Anup Patel
     [not found]         ` <CAALAos_o25mtphxcVE0rr9dE8YAm-os2C_HD9oDnt41ZMDP8pA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:23           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-19 11:26             ` Anup Patel
     [not found]               ` <CAALAos8nf-d5i74J7-sAJb2o9eFj2PVDeLLVd=wun+gW1ihXSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:29                 ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-19 11:30                 ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <20170719113017.GH13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:33                     ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu/arm-smmu: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM SMMU driver Anup Patel
     [not found]   ` <1500456838-18405-3-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 10:59     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found] ` <1500456838-18405-1-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19  9:33   ` [PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM SMMUv3 driver Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19 11:00     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]       ` <ace28bd1-2dd3-482c-d11b-539c055ee9b7-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:23         ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]           ` <CAALAos8y0kLGrbwgz3u=ZVyteSicuPyQZ3Yp=LPZohXzVaE5NQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:25             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20170719112524.GF13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:31                 ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                   ` <CAALAos_xGCt7U1Oz5uCf9Q4hP6fdn4fcymFNQP5xO_UBduSY3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:33                     ` Will Deacon
2017-07-19 11:39                       ` Anup Patel
     [not found]                         ` <CAALAos99HWLoW=0P-dvFA+oNsF03TRNzNbfppyQNtqmcRELXXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:53                           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20170719115333.GJ13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  4:02                               ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                                 ` <CAALAos-YbVbgvPmDYXeWaF4y8MQ9i7CG3tgGuf-QLR6hmXo18Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  9:10                                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                     ` <20170720091003.GA17837-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20 11:08                                       ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                                         ` <CAALAos8571-UVp7Ky81qFESVcNcWx_H2VOemFt_++NFCxcMg3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20 11:17                                           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-20 11:17                                       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                                         ` <8e82d8f5-e5e2-dd09-c774-29f9eda2ecdd-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 17:16                                           ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                             ` <20170724111621.7f1c3a85-DGNDKt5SQtizQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 17:23                                               ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                                                 ` <6468f359-1682-b9b0-5a4d-72738939cb84-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 19:06                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2017-07-25  8:59                                                     ` Anup Patel
2017-07-19  9:33   ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio: platform: reset: Add Broadcom FlexRM reset module Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]     ` <1500456838-18405-6-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 16:50       ` Scott Branden via iommu
     [not found]         ` <27236534-a9fb-53bc-f0c6-eb674833a94e-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  4:05           ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio: Allow No-IOMMU mode for IOMMUs with bypass capability Anup Patel
2017-07-19 10:57 ` [PATCH 0/5] FlexRM support in VFIO platform Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <0dc860ed-a40c-1bfd-f584-225807edb25b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:17     ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19 11:25       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <d4ef45d5-43cc-c632-082d-a92b8681faee-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:28           ` Anup Patel via iommu

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