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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 08:54:07 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817085407.3de4e755@w520.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817144308.GI16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:43:08 +0200
Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 08:35:20AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be much more friendly to downstreams and out-of-tree
> > drivers to introduce new functions for the async semantics?  ie.
> > iommu_map_async(), etc.  The API also seems a little cleaner that
> > iommu_map() stands alone, it's synchronous, iommu_map_async() is
> > explicitly asynchronous and a _flush() call is needed to finalize it.
> > What do you see as the advantage to the approach here?  Thanks,  
> 
> The reason I did it this way was that I want the iommu_map(),
> iommu_unmap(), and iomu_map_sg() functions be considered the _default_
> to chose when using the IOMMU-API, because their use is faster than
> using the _sync() variants. Or in other words, I want the _sync function
> names to imply that they are slower versions of the default ones.

So _sync() does imply that they're slower, but iommu_map() does not
imply that a _flush() is required.  One is a performance issue, the
other is an API usability issue.  If the sync version is used
sub-optimally, it's a performance issue, not a correctness issue.  If
the async version is used without an explicit flush, it's a correctness
issue.  Therefore, I would lean towards making the asynchronous mode
explicit and providing good documentation and comments to steer
developers to the async version.  I think it makes the API harder to
use incorrectly.  Thanks,

Alex

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-17 12:56 [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Joerg Roedel
     [not found] ` <1502974596-23835-1-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 01/13] iommu/amd: Rename a few flush functions Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-3-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:32       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20170817163234.GB30719-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:50           ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]             ` <20170817165040.GK2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 17:17               ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 21:20                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                   ` <20170817212054.GL2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 15:16                     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 03/13] vfio/type1: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 04/13] iommu/dma: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 05/13] arm: dma-mapping: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/etnaviv: " Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-7-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:32       ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]         ` <1502976758.19806.25.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:45           ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:03             ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]               ` <1502978634.19806.27.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:18                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                   ` <20170817141858.GG16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:30                     ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 14:35                       ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/nouveau/imem/gk20a: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/tegra: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:28     ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 11/13] gpu: host1x: " Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-12-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:29       ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 14:35   ` [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Alex Williamson
2017-08-17 14:43     ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]       ` <20170817144308.GI16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:54         ` Alex Williamson [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20170817085407.3de4e755-DGNDKt5SQtizQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 15:22             ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]               ` <20170817152220.GK16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-23 12:09                 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/msm: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-19 15:39   ` Rob Clark
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/rockchip: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] IB/usnic: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] remoteproc: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-24 19:06   ` Bjorn Andersson

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