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From: Joerg Roedel <jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:50:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817165040.GK2853@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817163234.GB30719-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

Hi Will,

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 05:32:35PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> I really like the idea of this, but I have a couple of questions and
> comments below.

Great, this together with the common iova-flush it should make it
possible to solve the performance problems of the dma-iommu code.

> > +int iommu_map_sync(struct iommu_domain *domain, unsigned long iova,
> > +		   phys_addr_t paddr, size_t size, int prot)
> > +{
> > +	int ret = iommu_map(domain, iova, paddr, size, prot);
> > +
> > +	iommu_tlb_range_add(domain, iova, size);
> > +	iommu_tlb_sync(domain);
> 
> Many IOMMUs don't need these callbacks on ->map operations, but they won't
> be able to distinguish them easily with this API. Could you add a flags
> parameter or something to the iommu_tlb_* functions, please?

Yeah, this is only needed for virtualized IOMMUs that have a non-present
cache. My idea was to let the iommu-drivers tell the common code whether
the iommu needs it and the code above just checks a flag and omits the
calls to the flush-functions then.

Problem currently is how to get this information from
'struct iommu_device' to 'struct iommu_domain'. As a workaround I
consider a per-domain flag in the iommu drivers which checks whether any
unmap has happened and just do nothing on the flush-call-back if there
were none.

> I think we will struggle to implement this efficiently on ARM SMMUv3. The
> way invalidation works there is that there is a single in-memory command
> queue into which we can put TLB invalidation commands (they are inserted
> under a lock). These are then processed asynchronously by the hardware, and
> you can complete them by inserting a SYNC command and waiting for that to
> be consumed by the SMMU. Sounds like a perfect fit, right?

Yes, its basically the same as way as it works on AMD-Vi and Intel VT-d.

> The problem is that we want to add those invalidation commands as early
> as possible, so that they can be processed by the hardware concurrently
> with us unmapping other pages.

I think that's a bad idea, because then you re-introduce the performance
problems again because everyone will spin on the cmd-queue lock in the
unmap path of the dma-api.

> That means adding the invalidation commands in the ->unmap callback
> and not bothering to implement ->iotlb_range_add callback at all.
> Then, we will do the sync in ->iotlb_sync. This falls apart if
> somebody decides to use iommu_flush_tlb_all(), where we would prefer
> not to insert all of the invalidation commands in unmap and instead
> insert a single invalidate-all command, followed up with a SYNC.

This problem can be solved with the deferred iova flushing code I posted
to the ML. When a queue fills up, iommu_flush_tlb_all() is called and
every entry that was unmapped before can be released. This works well on
x86, are there reasons it wouldn't on ARM?

Regards,

	Joerg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-17 12:56 [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Joerg Roedel
     [not found] ` <1502974596-23835-1-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 01/13] iommu/amd: Rename a few flush functions Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-3-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:32       ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20170817163234.GB30719-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:50           ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
     [not found]             ` <20170817165040.GK2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 17:17               ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 21:20                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                   ` <20170817212054.GL2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 15:16                     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 03/13] vfio/type1: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 04/13] iommu/dma: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 05/13] arm: dma-mapping: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/etnaviv: " Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-7-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:32       ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]         ` <1502976758.19806.25.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:45           ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:03             ` Lucas Stach
     [not found]               ` <1502978634.19806.27.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:18                 ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                   ` <20170817141858.GG16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:30                     ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 14:35                       ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/nouveau/imem/gk20a: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/tegra: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:28     ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 12:56   ` [PATCH 11/13] gpu: host1x: " Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <1502974596-23835-12-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:29       ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 14:35   ` [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Alex Williamson
2017-08-17 14:43     ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]       ` <20170817144308.GI16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:54         ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]           ` <20170817085407.3de4e755-DGNDKt5SQtizQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 15:22             ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]               ` <20170817152220.GK16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-23 12:09                 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/msm: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-19 15:39   ` Rob Clark
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/rockchip: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] IB/usnic: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] remoteproc: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-24 19:06   ` Bjorn Andersson

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