From: Joerg Roedel <jroedel-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 18:50:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817165040.GK2853@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170817163234.GB30719-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Hi Will,
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 05:32:35PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> I really like the idea of this, but I have a couple of questions and
> comments below.
Great, this together with the common iova-flush it should make it
possible to solve the performance problems of the dma-iommu code.
> > +int iommu_map_sync(struct iommu_domain *domain, unsigned long iova,
> > + phys_addr_t paddr, size_t size, int prot)
> > +{
> > + int ret = iommu_map(domain, iova, paddr, size, prot);
> > +
> > + iommu_tlb_range_add(domain, iova, size);
> > + iommu_tlb_sync(domain);
>
> Many IOMMUs don't need these callbacks on ->map operations, but they won't
> be able to distinguish them easily with this API. Could you add a flags
> parameter or something to the iommu_tlb_* functions, please?
Yeah, this is only needed for virtualized IOMMUs that have a non-present
cache. My idea was to let the iommu-drivers tell the common code whether
the iommu needs it and the code above just checks a flag and omits the
calls to the flush-functions then.
Problem currently is how to get this information from
'struct iommu_device' to 'struct iommu_domain'. As a workaround I
consider a per-domain flag in the iommu drivers which checks whether any
unmap has happened and just do nothing on the flush-call-back if there
were none.
> I think we will struggle to implement this efficiently on ARM SMMUv3. The
> way invalidation works there is that there is a single in-memory command
> queue into which we can put TLB invalidation commands (they are inserted
> under a lock). These are then processed asynchronously by the hardware, and
> you can complete them by inserting a SYNC command and waiting for that to
> be consumed by the SMMU. Sounds like a perfect fit, right?
Yes, its basically the same as way as it works on AMD-Vi and Intel VT-d.
> The problem is that we want to add those invalidation commands as early
> as possible, so that they can be processed by the hardware concurrently
> with us unmapping other pages.
I think that's a bad idea, because then you re-introduce the performance
problems again because everyone will spin on the cmd-queue lock in the
unmap path of the dma-api.
> That means adding the invalidation commands in the ->unmap callback
> and not bothering to implement ->iotlb_range_add callback at all.
> Then, we will do the sync in ->iotlb_sync. This falls apart if
> somebody decides to use iommu_flush_tlb_all(), where we would prefer
> not to insert all of the invalidation commands in unmap and instead
> insert a single invalidate-all command, followed up with a SYNC.
This problem can be solved with the deferred iova flushing code I posted
to the ML. When a queue fills up, iommu_flush_tlb_all() is called and
every entry that was unmapped before can be released. This works well on
x86, are there reasons it wouldn't on ARM?
Regards,
Joerg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-17 16:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-17 12:56 [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <1502974596-23835-1-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 01/13] iommu/amd: Rename a few flush functions Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 02/13] iommu: Introduce Interface for IOMMU TLB Flushing Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <1502974596-23835-3-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:32 ` Will Deacon
[not found] ` <20170817163234.GB30719-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 16:50 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
[not found] ` <20170817165040.GK2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 17:17 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 21:20 ` Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <20170817212054.GL2853-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 15:16 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 03/13] vfio/type1: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 04/13] iommu/dma: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 05/13] arm: dma-mapping: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/etnaviv: " Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <1502974596-23835-7-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:32 ` Lucas Stach
[not found] ` <1502976758.19806.25.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:45 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 14:03 ` Lucas Stach
[not found] ` <1502978634.19806.27.camel-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:18 ` Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <20170817141858.GG16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:30 ` Lucas Stach
2017-08-17 14:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/nouveau/imem/gk20a: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 10/13] drm/tegra: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 13:28 ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 11/13] gpu: host1x: " Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <1502974596-23835-12-git-send-email-joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 13:29 ` Thierry Reding
2017-08-17 14:35 ` [PATCH 00/13] Introduce IOMMU-API TLB Flushing Interface Alex Williamson
2017-08-17 14:43 ` Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <20170817144308.GI16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 14:54 ` Alex Williamson
[not found] ` <20170817085407.3de4e755-DGNDKt5SQtizQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 15:22 ` Joerg Roedel
[not found] ` <20170817152220.GK16908-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-23 12:09 ` Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/msm: Use sychronized interface of the IOMMU-API Joerg Roedel
2017-08-19 15:39 ` Rob Clark
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/rockchip: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] IB/usnic: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-17 12:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] remoteproc: " Joerg Roedel
2017-08-24 19:06 ` Bjorn Andersson
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