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To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 13:14:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181123121410.GG1586@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE5A7A7-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

Hi Kevin,

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 08:39:19AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> I agree special action needs to be taken for everything else (other than
> DMA-API), but the point that I didn't get is why the action must be based
> a new SVA-type domain, instead of extending default domain with SVA
> capability (including related paging structures which are accessed through 
> new SVA APIs). In the latter case domain-wise attribute (e.g. IRQ mapping) 
> is naturally shared between capabilities (DMA-API and SVA). There is no 
> need to create cross-domain connections as two options that you listed 
> below.
> 
> Can you help elaborate more about the motivation behind proposal?

Yeah, thinking more about it, there are no real reasons against allowing
aux and sva bindings on the default domain. It allows the host to use a
device through the DMA-API and assign parts of it to a guest or a
user-space process, for example.

> |-default domain (DMA-API)
> 	|-sva domain1 (SVA)
> 	|-sva domain2 (SVA)
> 	|-...
> 	|-sva domainN (AUX, guest DMA-API)
> 	|	|- sva domainN1 (AUX, guest SVA)
> 	|	|- sva domainN2 (AUX, guest SVA)
> 	|	|-...
> 	|-sva domainM (AUX, guest DMA-API)
> 	|	|- sva domainM1 (AUX, guest SVA)
> 	|	|- sva domainM2 (AUX, guest SVA)
> 	|	|-...

In my proposal the sva-domains are no sub-domains of the default-domain,
they exist on the same level. A device is detached from its default
domain and attached to an sva-domain.

> means same domain can be default on deviceA while being aux on deviceB
> (when assigning pci and mdev to same VM).

As already written in another mail, this raises a couple of questions,
like what happens when the aux-domain itself has other aux-domains bound
to it?


Regards,

	Joerg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-19 18:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20181019181158.2395-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] iommu: Adapt attach/detach_dev() for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  2:32       ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] drivers core: Add I/O ASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20181019181158.2395-3-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22  4:49       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <9c6cd6c1-3569-4251-8344-fc9df0e743bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 10:22           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <20181022102254.GA25399-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23  6:56               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <02006e4f-2acf-6ff8-b695-c54c99509b46-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:13                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-07  4:53       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <fb2bd5fe-5742-fcd8-b8f0-1885040e8d4f-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-08 18:51           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-12 14:40       ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]         ` <20181112144039.GA25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 11:16           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <8f17757a-c657-aab9-a6a0-fb0cc9c610a8-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:10               ` Koenig, Christian
     [not found]                 ` <62f05552-df46-6e12-10ed-820429dfda59-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22  6:59                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-11-22  8:38                   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-11-22  8:44               ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                 ` <20181122084429.GB1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-22 11:17                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] iommu/sva: Use external PASID allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] iommu/sva: Support AUXD feature Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement detach_dev op Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-19 18:11   ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add support for auxiliary domains Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-20  3:36   ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Auxiliary IOMMU domains and Arm SMMUv3 Xu Zaibo
2018-10-22  6:53   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE0E176-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 11:50       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <11f88122-afd3-a34c-3cd4-db681bf5498b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 15:35           ` Jordan Crouse
2018-10-22 18:01           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-11-06 16:25           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]             ` <20181106162539.4gmkvg57mja3bn7k-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07  3:40               ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <e22e3631-2ecb-664d-5666-8e0f865dec83-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 16:43                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181107164323.GA19831-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-07 17:23                       ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-21  4:40                       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                         ` <758bb120-5bc0-1e2d-ccd0-9be0bcc5d8bc-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 11:21                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                             ` <20181123112125.GF1586-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-25  6:51                               ` Lu Baolu
2018-11-26  3:01                               ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
     [not found]                               ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE68777-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-26  7:29                                 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE689B8-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-07 10:29                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                       ` <20181207102926.GM16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  2:06                                         ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                           ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE95394-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:57                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                               ` <20181210085745.GN16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-11 18:34                                                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                                   ` <4be63d12-fa1c-b180-761b-5e8ceed58545-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:22                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-12  9:31                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                                   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE9D6CA-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:54                                                     ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
     [not found]                                                       ` <20181212095403.GU16835-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 10:03                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-12-10  2:57                                         ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                                           ` <bf1ee4a3-6d3f-e0db-a02a-1db819843a60-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-10  8:59                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-12-11 13:35                                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                           ` <fc173d9f-57e2-dd87-95d0-1c615f2e14e3-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12  9:29                                             ` 'joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org'
2018-11-08 18:29               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                 ` <42949d93-e22c-dd4d-cd49-46efc0b73cdb-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 14:55                   ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
     [not found]                     ` <20181112145541.GB25808-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-21 19:05                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                         ` <5dcf9238-62b2-8df6-b378-183ee09c5951-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:50                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A
2018-11-22  8:39                       ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                         ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D19BE5A7A7-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-23 12:14                           ` joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A [this message]
2018-10-22 10:07   ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]     ` <20181021194426.GA11201-7RUrO8UaCDyr4tA6zuQqW9h3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-22 16:03       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]         ` <d45c5222-68e9-1d6e-730b-bb8dbc060586-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 17:16           ` Raj, Ashok
     [not found]             ` <1540314963.21962.20.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-23 22:08               ` Tian, Kevin
2018-10-26  3:00           ` Lu Baolu
2018-10-22 16:48   ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]     ` <20181022164834.GH26762-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-02  3:19       ` Lu Baolu

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