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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	arnd@arndb.de, "Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	zhangfei.gao@linaro.org, linux-accelerators@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] iommu: Remove iommu_sva_ops::mm_exit()
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:31:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200409093153.3da80d0d@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200409120821.GE11886@ziepe.ca>

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 09:08:21 -0300
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 04:48:02PM -0700, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > > Yes, this is the proper way, when the DMA is stopped and no use
> > > of the PASID remains then you can drop the mmu notifier and
> > > release the PASID entirely. If that is linked to the lifetime of
> > > the FD then forget completely about the mm_struct lifetime, it
> > > doesn't matter.. 
> > Got everything above, thanks a lot.
> > 
> > If everything is in order with the FD close. Why do we need to 
> > "ask IOMMU drivers to silently abort DMA and Page Requests in the
> > meantime." in mm_exit notifier? This will be done orderly in unbind
> > anyway.  
> 
> I thought this is exactly what Jean-Phillippe is removing here, it is
> a bad idea for the reasons he explained.
> 
I think this patch only removed driver side callbacks, i.e. to stop
DMA. But not removing IOMMU side of stop DMA, PRS.

Before uacce, (universal accelerator framework), sva bind/unbind is not
guaranteed at open/close FD time. Therefore, mmu notifier is needed if
mmexit comes without unbind.

> > > > Enforcing unbind upon FD close might be a precarious path,
> > > > perhaps that is why we have to deal with out of order
> > > > situation?    
> > > 
> > > How so? You just put it in the FD release function :)  
> > 
> > I was thinking some driver may choose to defer unbind in some
> > workqueue etc.  
> 
> Doesn't really change anything, the lifetime of the PASID wouuld be
> the lifetime of the notifier and the bind, and DMA can't continue
> without the notifier registered.
> 
True, it is just better not to defer. Otherwise, the window of
suppressing error gets longer.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-09 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-08 14:04 [PATCH 0/2] iommu: Remove iommu_sva_ops::mm_exit() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-08 14:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] uacce: Remove mm_exit() op Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-09  9:07   ` Zhangfei Gao
2020-04-09  9:44     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-08 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] iommu: Remove iommu_sva_ops::mm_exit() Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-08 18:35 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Jacob Pan
2020-04-08 19:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-08 21:35     ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-08 22:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-08 23:48         ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-09  6:39           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-09 14:14             ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-09 14:25               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-09 16:21                 ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-09 16:58                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-09 14:50               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-09 16:27                 ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-10 15:52                 ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-15  7:47                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-16 20:58                     ` Jacob Pan
2020-04-20  8:02                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2020-04-09 12:08           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-09 16:31             ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2020-04-08 23:49         ` Fenghua Yu
2020-04-09 12:12           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-08 19:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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