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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: sascha hauer <sha@pengutronix.de>
Cc: andrew lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, peng fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linus walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	ulf hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	eric dumazet <edumazet@google.com>, pavel machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	will deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	kevin hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	russell king <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, jakub kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	paolo abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	len brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	hideaki yoshifuji <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	david ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Daniel Scally <djrscally@gmail.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "david s. miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	heiner kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] of: base: Avoid console probe delay when fw_devlink.strict=1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:50:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220627175046.GA2644138-robh@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220623100421.GY1615@pengutronix.de>

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 12:04:21PM +0200, sascha hauer wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 01:03:43AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > Commit 71066545b48e ("driver core: Set fw_devlink.strict=1 by default")
> > enabled iommus and dmas dependency enforcement by default. On some
> > systems, this caused the console device's probe to get delayed until the
> > deferred_probe_timeout expires.
> > 
> > We need consoles to work as soon as possible, so mark the console device
> > node with FWNODE_FLAG_BEST_EFFORT so that fw_delink knows not to delay
> > the probe of the console device for suppliers without drivers. The
> > driver can then make the decision on where it can probe without those
> > suppliers or defer its probe.
> > 
> > Fixes: 71066545b48e ("driver core: Set fw_devlink.strict=1 by default")
> > Reported-by: Sascha Hauer <sha@pengutronix.de>
> > Reported-by: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
> > Tested-by: Peng Fan <peng.fan@nxp.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/of/base.c | 2 ++
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/of/base.c b/drivers/of/base.c
> > index d4f98c8469ed..a19cd0c73644 100644
> > --- a/drivers/of/base.c
> > +++ b/drivers/of/base.c
> > @@ -1919,6 +1919,8 @@ void of_alias_scan(void * (*dt_alloc)(u64 size, u64 align))
> >  			of_property_read_string(of_aliases, "stdout", &name);
> >  		if (name)
> >  			of_stdout = of_find_node_opts_by_path(name, &of_stdout_options);
> > +		if (of_stdout)
> > +			of_stdout->fwnode.flags |= FWNODE_FLAG_BEST_EFFORT;
> 
> The device given in the stdout-path property doesn't necessarily have to
> be consistent with the console= parameter. The former is usually
> statically set in the device trees contained in the kernel while the
> latter is dynamically set by the bootloader. So if you change the
> console uart in the bootloader then you'll still run into this trap.
> 
> It's problematic to consult only the device tree for dependencies. I
> found several examples of drivers in the tree for which dma support
> is optional. They use it if they can, but continue without it when
> not available. "hwlock" is another property which consider several
> drivers as optional. Also consider SoCs in early upstreaming phases
> when the device tree is merged with "dmas" or "hwlock" properties,
> but the corresponding drivers are not yet upstreamed. It's not nice
> to defer probing of all these devices for a long time.
> 
> I wonder if it wouldn't be a better approach to just probe all devices
> and record the device(node) they are waiting on. Then you know that you
> don't need to probe them again until the device they are waiting for
> is available.

Can't we have a driver flag 'I have optional dependencies' that will 
trigger probe without all dependencies and then the driver can defer 
probe if required dependencies are not yet met.

Rob
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-27 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-23  8:03 [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix console probe delay due to fw_devlink Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23  8:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] driver core: fw_devlink: Allow firmware to mark devices as best effort Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23  8:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] of: base: Avoid console probe delay when fw_devlink.strict=1 Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23 10:04   ` sascha hauer
2022-06-23 16:39     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-06-23 17:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-06-23 17:30       ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23 17:26     ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23 17:35       ` Ahmad Fatoum
2022-06-23 18:17         ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-23 20:37       ` sascha hauer
2022-06-23 23:13         ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-27 17:50     ` Rob Herring [this message]
2022-06-27 18:20       ` Saravana Kannan via iommu
2022-06-28 13:41     ` Linus Walleij

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