From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2025 11:54:25 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250320145425.GK126678@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9widNEXgJdfQd-G@google.com>
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 02:13:08PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> I may be thinking too much here, let me know if this needs to be dropped?
IMHO you are correct to worry about this for security. During power
management the translation should not change to bypass. Either abort
or the attached domain only. I would document this in comments as it
is an important detail.
Eventually this may be operated from a VM and we do not want to see
any hole where the VM could abuse the power management and somehow be
able to DMA into a bypass as a race condition.
> > Draining the command queue shouldn't strictly be necessary it only contains
> > invalidations and syncs, since we know all the cached state they could refer
> > to is going to be thrown away by the time the SMMU has come back anyway. If
>
> More than just SMMU's TLBIs, I think we'd still need the ATC
> invalidations to go through, right? As the ATC is present in the PCIE_EP
> and if a translation is cached in the ATC, AFAIK, the EP gets to bypass
> the SMMU, which could potentially lead to mis-translations...
Yes, you cannot just loose ATC invalidations unless you have a way to
guarentee that the power management cleaned the PCI device cache.
Jason
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Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-19 0:42 [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 4:50 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-03-19 7:43 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:29 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21 7:26 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-25 16:19 ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 19:35 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to wait till cmdq drains Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:30 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21 8:09 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-25 17:50 ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 19:36 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-26 4:51 ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-26 20:10 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:33 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21 8:13 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-26 4:52 ` Daniel Mentz
2025-03-28 7:47 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-14 17:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-14 21:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-15 20:47 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 22:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-16 10:24 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 12:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 12:29 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 12:52 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-16 13:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-16 14:32 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 20:37 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-04-15 22:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-04-16 8:29 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:34 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-19 0:42 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-19 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 7:25 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 12:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 13:22 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-20 14:21 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 22:36 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-19 11:57 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 16:07 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-20 22:25 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-21 14:18 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-21 17:35 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-24 17:36 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-27 17:27 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-28 9:13 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28 9:19 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28 13:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-28 15:08 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-28 18:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 18:22 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-19 19:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 21:00 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 23:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21 14:36 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-22 0:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 22:28 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-20 23:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21 14:44 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-21 15:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-24 17:53 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-25 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-27 17:39 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-03-28 13:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 14:13 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-03-20 14:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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