From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com,
jean-philippe@linaro.org, qperret@google.com, tabba@google.com,
mark.rutland@arm.com, praan@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 29/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add IOMMU ops
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 13:47:52 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250730164752.GO26511@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIo1ImP7R7VhRpVE@google.com>
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 03:07:14PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 11:42:53AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 05:53:16PM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > > Register the SMMUv3 through IOMMU ops, that only support identity
> > > domains. This allows the driver to know which device are currently used
> > > to properly enable/disable then.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
> > > ---
> > > .../iommu/arm/arm-smmu-v3/arm-smmu-v3-kvm.c | 92 ++++++++++++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 91 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > Can you split the new iommu subysstem driver out please? I think I
> > asked this before.
>
> Sorry, maybe I misunderstood, do you mean split this patch into multiple
> patches or split all KVM SMMUv3 driver out of this series?
Yes the latter, the iommu driver introduction is best as its own
series
> > - Domain attachment looks questionable. Please do not have
> > attach/detach language at all in the hypervisor facing API.
>
> I am not sure I understand this one, the hypervisor API has no
> attach/detach APIs?
> We only notify the hypervisor via “enable/disable” hypercalls when
> devices are attached or released (as only IDENTITY DOMAIN is supported)
> so it can enable or disable translation.
Same difference, different words.. We've had trouble with this kind of
ambiguous language.
attach identity
attach blocking
Keep it clean and simple
> > - Get the ordering and APIs right so replace works. You need this to support RMRs
>
> I see, we can’t support bypass for security reasons, but we can enable
> the identity map for such devices.
You will have a small issue if the bootup has the pkvm side put the
device into a blocking translation then later switches to an
"identity".
As far as I understand it display scan out buffers have to be
continuously hitlessly mapped. So you want all the transitions from
bootup bypass, pkvm isolation, "identity", etc to continuously
hitlessly map the RMRs containing the buffers.
I think :)
> > - Use a blocking domain not some unclear detatch idea
>
> There is not a single detach in this driver, we only support attach and release
> operation, which just goes to the hypervisor as enable/disable
> identity.
'disable' then.
> > - Use a blocking domain for release
>
> I see, I can add “blocked_domain” similar to “arm_smmu_blocked_domain”
> which just disables the device translation, I will look into, I am just
> concerned it's more code as this driver only supports a single domain
> type.
Yes, this is the right thing. There should not be operations in the
driver that change the underyling translation that are anything other
than attaching domains. It becomes too hard to maintain.
> > - Use the smmu-v3 approach for the fwspec, don't store things in the drvdata.
>
> This is using “dev_iommu_fwspec_get” similar to the SMMUv3 driver,
> am I missing something?
Oh I got it confused, you are just calling
+ .device_group = arm_smmu_device_group,
+ .of_xlate = arm_smmu_of_xlate,
+ .get_resv_regions = arm_smmu_get_resv_regions,
Which is also weird, why does an entirely new driver call 4 random functions
in arm smmu?
Maybe don't, they are all trivial functions, or you don't need
them. For example you don't need MSI_IOVA_BASE if the driver doesn't
support paging.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-30 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-28 17:52 [PATCH v3 00/29] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 01/29] KVM: arm64: Add a new function to donate memory with prot Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 02/29] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 03/29] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_time_get() Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 04/29] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split the page table driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 05/29] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Split initialization Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 06/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some definitions to a new common file Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 07/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Extract driver-specific bits from probe function Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 08/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move some functions to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 09/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move queue and table allocation " Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 10/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move firmware probe to arm-smmu-v3-common Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 11/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IOMMU registration to arm-smmu-v3-common.c Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v3 12/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Split cmdq code with hyp Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 13/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move TLB range invalidation into a macro Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 14/29] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 15/29] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 16/29] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add a memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 17/29] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add enable/disable hypercalls Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 18/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 19/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Initialize registers Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 20/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Setup command queue Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-29 6:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-07-29 9:55 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 21/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Setup stream table Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 22/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Reset the device Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 23/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support io-pgtable Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 24/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 25/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add enable/disable device HVCs Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 26/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add host driver for pKVM Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 27/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Pass a list of SMMU devices to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 28/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Allocate structures and reset device Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-28 17:53 ` [PATCH v3 29/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add IOMMU ops Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-30 14:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-30 15:07 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-30 16:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-07-31 14:17 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-07-31 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-31 17:44 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-01 18:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-04 14:41 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-05 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-06 14:10 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-11 18:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-12 10:29 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-12 12:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-12 12:37 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-12 13:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:52 ` Mostafa Saleh
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