From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Dmytro Maluka <dmaluka@chromium.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Vineeth Pillai (Google)" <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>,
Aashish Sharma <aashish@aashishsharma.net>,
Grzegorz Jaszczyk <jaszczyk@chromium.org>,
Chuanxiao Dong <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 20:14:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260106001418.GK125261@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aVwZkFQ-iQ7OHMi2@google.com>
On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 09:05:36PM +0100, Dmytro Maluka wrote:
> > and WRITE_ONCE is pointless if the HW is promising not to
> > read it due to non-present.
>
> As long as we use a barrier. And IIUC vice versa, if we use WRITE_ONCE
> for any updates, a barrier is not necessary (on x86). And WRITE_ONCE for
> any updates (for PASID entries) is what was already done before this
> series.
That is an x86 ism and it shouldn't be needlessly leaked into drivers.
As this is not performance it should have the portable flow:
WRITE_ONCE(non-present)
dma_wmb()
<cmd to flush caches>
[..]
<writes to the entry>
dma_wmb()
WRITE_ONCE(present)
So, it seems to me like all you need here is the one line to add the
dma_wmb() prior to setting present.
> Although, perhaps even with a barrier, WRITE_ONCE is still desirable to
> prevent the compiler from doing strange but legal things that involve
> transiently setting and then clearing the present bit behind our back?
> (Not that I'm aware of any compilers doing that, but I'm no compiler
> expert.)
You do have to write once the present bit, but not the others. The
dma_wmb() will make sure the HW cannot observe other states when it
observes present.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-06 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-27 17:57 [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] iommu/vt-d: Sanitize set bits in pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] iommu/vt-d: Generalize pasid_set_bits() Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context entry updates Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] iommu/vt-d: Use smp_wmb() before setting context/pasid present bit Dmytro Maluka
2025-12-27 17:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] iommu/vt-d: Use WRITE_ONCE for setting root table entries Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 18:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] iommu/vt-d: Ensure memory ordering in context & root entry updates Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-05 18:54 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-05 19:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-05 20:05 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 0:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-06 7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 14:40 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08 2:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 13:51 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 15:50 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-06 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-06 17:14 ` Dmytro Maluka
2026-01-08 2:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-09 6:32 ` Baolu Lu
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2026-01-08 7:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-01-06 3:37 ` Baolu Lu
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