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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Cc: Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] iommu_ops->domain_alloc_paging() enhancement to support AMD IOMMU driver
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:40:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35ff9f32-ae60-4124-9ced-42f82c2b4f93@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240711234917.GW14050@ziepe.ca>

On 12/07/2024 12:49 am, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 12:17:17PM +0800, Yi Liu wrote:
>> On 2024/7/10 02:23, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 02:57:51PM +0800, Yi Liu wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTW. For AMD, can a single device be attached to multiple V1 page table?
>>>> IIRC. looks like AMD has only one V1 page table pointer per BDF. But there
>>>> is a PASID table which has multiple cr3 page table pointers.
>>>
>>> Yes, ARM and AMD both have kinds of iommu_domains that cannot be
>>> attached to a PASID.
>>
>> I see. VT-d does not have such a limitation AFAIK.
> 
> Yeah, it is nice for software that VT-d put the right bits in to let
> all paths select either format.
> 
>> BTW. SVA domain shall not be attached to RID I suppose. This should
>> be a common restriction across vendors. Do you think it is valuable
>> to let iommu core block such an attempt?
> 
> Yeah, maybe.

There's no functional reason to disallow it for Arm SMMUs, at least, so 
it's something that could potentially want relaxing back to per-driver 
in future. I've heard murmurings over the years about potential 
use-cases for SVA with platform and/or non-PASID PCI devices, but never 
anything concrete for existing hardware. I imagine we can expect to see 
more SVA-interested on-chip accelerators in future, but whether they'll 
all be nice and support Substreams (i.e. "platform PASIDs") is the 
question...

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-12 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-28  6:43 [RFC] iommu_ops->domain_alloc_paging() enhancement to support AMD IOMMU driver Vasant Hegde
2024-06-28 12:23 ` Baolu Lu
2024-06-28 13:06   ` Robin Murphy
2024-06-28 17:08     ` Vasant Hegde
2024-06-28 17:58       ` Robin Murphy
2024-07-01 10:28         ` Vasant Hegde
2024-06-28 14:50   ` Vasant Hegde
2024-06-28 15:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-28 13:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-28 17:49   ` Vasant Hegde
2024-06-28 18:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-01 10:48       ` Vasant Hegde
2024-07-01 17:26         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-03  5:42           ` Vasant Hegde
2024-07-03  6:57             ` Yi Liu
2024-07-09 18:23               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-10  4:17                 ` Yi Liu
2024-07-11 23:49                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12 13:40                     ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2024-07-12 13:53                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-12 15:12                         ` Robin Murphy
2024-07-12 15:19                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-07-15  8:46                       ` Yi Liu
2024-07-11 10:15               ` Vasant Hegde
2024-07-11 13:56                 ` Yi Liu
2024-07-12  1:39                   ` Baolu Lu
2024-07-12  2:43                     ` Yi Liu
2024-07-15 10:39                   ` Vasant Hegde
2024-07-16  7:43                     ` Yi Liu
2024-07-16 13:41                       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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