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From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@linaro.org>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"eric.auger@st.com" <eric.auger@st.com>,
	tech@virtualopensystems.com, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Building assigned device guest dt node from host device tree ...
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2015 17:29:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E5C46A.2050309@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150901092813.GE10991@cbox>

Dear all,

I am currently investigating the usage of sysfs to retrieve info from
the host device tree to build guest dt node for assigned devices (just
to explain a bit of context for Peter & Alex added in cc). For more
complex devices we could typically copy host settings on guest side (mac
@, various speeds, functional modes, ...).

This follows the "Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] vfio: platform: return device
properties for a platform device" thread.

I have some questions:

- the device directory can be somewhere in /sys/devices/platform, ie.
can be in sub-directories. The first difficulty is to locate it. Do you
know any C routing doing find-file matching a file name pattern? Didn't
find any in qemu, nor in glib.

- I currently prototype this functionality using popen + find. That
works but relies on "find" executable availability. Is it a valid
assumption?

- I would need to build various utility functions such as
read_u32_array_prop(char *path, const char *prop_name,
                               uint32_t *props, uint32 num)
path being the of_node directory path, prop_name being the name of the
property to get the value; this for each type of property I need to
fetch and assign to the guest ... Is it the right direction?

Putting things on kernel - VOSYS approach - and exposing new VFIO IOTCL
enable to use std kernel APIs and remove the problem of finding data on
the fs ...

Please advise on the direction to follow, continue exploring the sysfs
method or revert to VOSYS approach?

Thank you in advance

Best Regards

Eric



On 09/01/2015 11:28 AM, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 09:31:56AM +0200, Eric Auger wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>>> Can you reiterate why QEMU and VFIO don't already have the information
>>>>> necessary to setup resources and present a DT to the guest that the
>>>>> guest can use?
>>>> A vfio-platform driver was bound to the passthrough'ed device. QEMU
>>>> current knows the compat string of the device and the node's name and
>>>> that's it.
>>>>
>>>> The VFIO platform driver currently does not allow to return device
>>>> specific information. It just returns generic info such as resource
>>>> info. The driver is HW agnostic.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The QEMU VFIO device should be able to check some characteristics of the
>>>> host device tree. Typically if the host node does not comply with some
>>>> constraints it may not be possible to assign the device.
>>>>
>>>> We do not want the QEMU end-user to have in-depth knowledge of the HW so
>>>> passing the info in the QEMU command line does not sound to be the good
>>>> solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you mentioned /proc/device-tree depends on kernel option. I am able
>>>> to find the properties in sysfs too but can we systematically rely on
>>>> sysfs (CONFIG_SYSFS)? Also I would have expected the values to be human
>>>> readable but they are not. Currently investigating open/read from qemu
>>>> but is better than an ioctl API? ...
>>>>
>>> Yeah it does, but I thought we originally planned that the driver for a
>>> specific platform device in QEMU should know these details,
>> Yes that's the objective to put this intelligence in the QEMU VFIO
>> device or more precisely in the associated function that builds its
>> guest dt node.
>>
>> Let's take an example. Assuming an xgmac supports different speeds, you
>> need to set those on guest. Either you put arbitrary values or you reuse
>> the values that were set on host. Typically some values may not be
>> supported by the HW.
>>
> 
> I see.  I'm no expert here, but I could imagine that drivers could
> overwrite some things in the DT or do some advanced probing of the
> hardware which is then only exported in the sysfs and not the DT, so I
> would go the sysfs approach myself.
> 
>> Idea of genericity was ruled out indeed meaning each device needs to
>> have a specialized QEMU VFIO device and an associated dt node creation
>> function. Now this does not prevent from exploiting host dt information.
>> Does that make sense?
>>
> Yes, thanks for the explanation.
> 
> -Christoffer
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-01 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-19 21:20 [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] vfio: platform: return device properties for a platform device Antonios Motakis
     [not found] ` <1419024032-1269-1-git-send-email-a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-19 21:20   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] vfio: platform: add device properties skeleton and user API Antonios Motakis
     [not found]     ` <1419024032-1269-2-git-send-email-a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-03 16:48       ` Eric Auger
2014-12-19 21:20   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] vfio: platform: access device property as a list of strings Antonios Motakis
2015-09-03 16:49     ` Eric Auger
2014-12-19 21:20   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] vfio: platform: return device properties as arrays of unsigned integers Antonios Motakis
     [not found]     ` <1419024032-1269-4-git-send-email-a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-03 16:49       ` Eric Auger
2015-08-27 12:52   ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] vfio: platform: return device properties for a platform device Eric Auger
2015-08-27 13:36     ` Antonios Motakis
     [not found]       ` <55DF124F.8020801-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-27 13:49         ` Eric Auger
     [not found]     ` <55DF07F0.3070405-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-27 14:27       ` Christian Pinto
     [not found]         ` <55DF1E4B.6040604-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-27 14:55           ` Eric Auger
2015-08-27 16:11       ` Alex Williamson
2015-08-27 17:16         ` Eric Auger
     [not found]           ` <55DF45D0.5040704-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-30 14:06             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-08-31 17:02               ` Eric Auger
     [not found]                 ` <55E48897.4090907-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 17:33                   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-01  7:31                     ` Eric Auger
2015-09-01  9:28                       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-01 15:29                         ` Eric Auger [this message]
2015-09-01 15:49                           ` Building assigned device guest dt node from host device tree Peter Maydell
2015-09-01 17:00                           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                             ` <83D37F6C-FFE9-4C3C-AA1C-F12603954C2A-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 17:16                               ` Eric Auger
2015-09-01 15:32                         ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] vfio: platform: return device properties for a platform device Baptiste Reynal
     [not found]                           ` <CAN9JPjGfuv_YOBEdZA_AD13oHej7wMCR50=zQTZmgzHx-jBj_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 15:52                             ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-02  7:21                               ` Baptiste Reynal
     [not found]                                 ` <CAN9JPjFwsiYzR6RtDA-5UZYoNALGu8crXVyA+m6ptsWv=qJi5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02  9:21                                   ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-02  9:49                                     ` Baptiste Reynal
2015-09-02 10:32                                       ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-02 13:42                                         ` Baptiste Reynal
2015-09-02 16:52                                       ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                         ` <1441212724.20355.306.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-03  7:42                                           ` Baptiste Reynal
     [not found]                                             ` <CAN9JPjF0Lex2wD=_iiriTaYdukva+rxhdwPTQnGqC5kQFCEYGg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-03  8:49                                               ` Christoffer Dall
2015-09-03 14:18                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2015-09-03 16:46                                             ` Eric Auger

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