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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin"
	<mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cornelia.huck-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi
	<stefanha-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	qemu-block-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Stefano Stabellini
	<stefano.stabellini-mvvWK6WmYclDPfheJLI6IQ@public.gmane.org>,
	qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	peterx-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Christian Borntraeger
	<borntraeger-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Anthony PERARD
	<anthony.perard-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 13:09:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57306FE4.4050006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160428182341-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>



On 28/04/2016 17:37, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > All the internally-emulated devices *can* be either translated or
> > untranslated. That's just a matter of software. Surely, you currently
> > *can't* have translated assigned devices (until someone implements the
> > whole VT-d page table shadowing or whatever), so you'll be barred from
> > assigning a device to a slot which *previously* had an untranslated
> > device. But so what? Put it in a different slot instead.
> 
> Unfortunately people got used to be able to put any device
> in any slot, and built external tools around that ability.
> It's rather painful to break this assumption.

Once you move to PCIe, a lot of things become more complicated.  This is
just one of them; instead of needing half a dozen PCI bridges, you'll
need half a dozen plus one.

Paolo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-09 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1461245745-6710-1-git-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20160421135416.GE11775@citrix.com>
2016-04-27 12:18   ` [PATCH V2 RFC] fixup! virtio: convert to use DMA api David Woodhouse
2016-04-27 13:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <20160427153345-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 14:23         ` Joerg Roedel
2016-04-27 14:31           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]             ` <CALCETrVkSSJbjoK8i7pLsSYR0o=Wy1UP-mrmn2uxYUd81g18dg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 14:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 14:43                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 14:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 14:58                     ` Joerg Roedel
2016-04-27 15:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 15:10                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 14:34           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20160427172630-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 14:56               ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                 ` <20160427145632.GI17926-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 15:05                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 15:15                     ` David Woodhouse
2016-04-27 18:17                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-27 19:16                         ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                           ` <1461784617.118304.181.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28 14:34                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-28 15:11                               ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                                 ` <1461856314.33870.98.camel-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28 15:37                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-28 15:48                                     ` David Woodhouse
2016-05-01 10:37                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                     ` <20160428182341-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-09 11:09                                       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]

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