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From: Xu Zaibo <xuzaibo@huawei.com>
To: Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Kenneth Lee <nek.in.cn@gmail.com>,
	Hao Fang <fanghao11@huawei.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kumar, Sanjay K" <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxarm@huawei.com" <linuxarm@huawei.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>, Kenneth Lee <liguoz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 20:24:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B62F807.8030407@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180802111000.4649d9ed@alans-desktop>

Hi,

On 2018/8/2 18:10, Alan Cox wrote:
>> One motivation I guess, is that most accelerators lack of a
>> well-abstracted high level APIs similar to GPU side (e.g. OpenCL
>> clearly defines Shared Virtual Memory models). VFIO mdev
>> might be an alternative common interface to enable SVA usages
>> on various accelerators...
> SVA is not IMHO the hard bit from a user level API perspective. The hard
> bit is describing what you have and enumerating the contents of the device
> especially when those can be quite dynamic and in the FPGA case can
> change on the fly.
>
> Right now we've got
> - FPGA manager
> - Google's recently posted ASIC patches
> - WarpDrive
>
> all trying to be bits of the same thing, and really there needs to be a
> single solution that handles all of this stuff properly.
>
> If we are going to have any kind of general purpose accelerator API then
> it has to be able to implement things like
>
> 	'find me an accelerator with function X that is nearest my memory'
> 	'find me accelerator functions X and Y that share HBM'
> 	'find me accelerator functions X and Y than can be chained'
>
> If instead we have three API's depending upon whose accelerator you are
> using and whether it's FPGA or ASIC this is going to be a mess on a grand
> scale.
>
Agree, at the beginning, we try to bring a notion of 'capability' which 
describes 'algorithms, mem access methods .etc ',
but then, we come to realize it is the first thing that we should come 
to a single solution on these things such as
memory/device access, IOMMU .etc.

Thanks,
Zaibo

>
> .
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-02 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-01 10:22 [RFC PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] vfio/spimdev: Add documents for WarpDrive framework Kenneth Lee
     [not found]   ` <20180801102221.5308-2-nek.in.cn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  3:14     ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]       ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D191290F04-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  4:22         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  4:41           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-06 12:27   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20180806122733.GA17232-5NIqAleC692hcjWhqY66xCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08  1:43       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] iommu: Add share domain interface in iommu for spimdev Kenneth Lee
     [not found]   ` <20180801102221.5308-3-nek.in.cn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  3:17     ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]       ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D191290F49-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  4:15         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  4:39           ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-08  9:13   ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]     ` <20180808091354.ppqgineql3pufwwr-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  1:09       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] vfio: add spimdev support Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 16:23   ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]     ` <d11c7745-2f31-0f33-1bd8-78379dc66e6e-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  3:07       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  3:21   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D191290F7B-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  3:47       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  4:24         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-02  7:34           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  8:35             ` Cornelia Huck
     [not found]               ` <20180802103528.0b863030.cohuck-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02 18:43                 ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                   ` <20180802124327.403b10ab-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-06  1:40                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-06 15:49                       ` Alex Williamson
2018-08-06 16:34                         ` Raj, Ashok
2018-08-06 17:05                           ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                             ` <20180806110521.0b708e0b-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08  1:32                               ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: add hisilicon Queue Manager driver Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: Add Hisilicon Zip driver Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: add spimdev support to Hisilicon QM Kenneth Lee
2018-08-01 10:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] vfio/spimdev: add user sample for spimdev Kenneth Lee
     [not found] ` <20180801102221.5308-1-nek.in.cn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-01 16:56   ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Jerome Glisse
     [not found]     ` <20180801165644.GA3820-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  2:33       ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]         ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D191290E1A-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  4:05           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02 14:22             ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]               ` <20180802142243.GA3481-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-03  3:47                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-03 14:39                   ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                     ` <20180803143944.GA4079-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-06  3:12                       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-06 15:32                         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-08  1:08                           ` Kenneth Lee
     [not found]                             ` <11bace0e-dc14-5d2c-f65c-25b852f4e9ca-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08 15:18                               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-09  8:03                                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-09  8:31                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-10  1:37                                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-09 14:46                                   ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                                     ` <20180809144613.GB3386-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-10  3:39                                       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-10 13:12                                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                           ` <0f6bac9b-8381-1874-9367-46b5f4cef56e-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-11 15:26                                             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-13  9:29                                               ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-13 19:23                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-14  3:46                                                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-10 14:32                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-11 14:44                                           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02 10:10         ` Alan Cox
2018-08-02 12:24           ` Xu Zaibo [this message]
2018-08-02 14:46           ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]             ` <20180802144627.GB3481-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-03 14:20               ` Alan Cox
2018-08-03 14:55                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-06  1:26                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  2:59 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]   ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D191290EB3-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-02  3:40     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-08-02  4:36       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-08-02  5:35         ` Kenneth Lee

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