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From: Yongji Xie <xyjxie-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: "Tian,
	Kevin" <kevin.tian-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	David Laight
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 21:28:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90cc2e8c-be18-45de-ffff-fad313d49f81@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F8474A4-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

On 2016/5/5 20:15, Tian, Kevin wrote:

>> From: Yongji Xie [mailto:xyjxie-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 7:43 PM
>>
>> Hi David and Kevin,
>>
>> On 2016/5/5 17:54, David Laight wrote:
>>
>>> From: Tian, Kevin
>>>> Sent: 05 May 2016 10:37
>>> ...
>>>>> Acutually, we are not aimed at accessing MSI-X table from
>>>>> guest. So I think it's safe to passthrough MSI-X table if we
>>>>> can make sure guest kernel would not touch MSI-X table in
>>>>> normal code path such as para-virtualized guest kernel on PPC64.
>>>>>
>>>> Then how do you prevent malicious guest kernel accessing it?
>>> Or a malicious guest driver for an ethernet card setting up
>>> the receive buffer ring to contain a single word entry that
>>> contains the address associated with an MSI-X interrupt and
>>> then using a loopback mode to cause a specific packet be
>>> received that writes the required word through that address.
>>>
>>> Remember the PCIe cycle for an interrupt is a normal memory write
>>> cycle.
>>>
>>> 	David
>>>
>> If we have enough permission to load a malicious driver or
>> kernel, we can easily break the guest without exposed
>> MSI-X table.
>>
>> I think it should be safe to expose MSI-X table if we can
>> make sure that malicious guest driver/kernel can't use
>> the MSI-X table to break other guest or host. The
>> capability of IRQ remapping could provide this
>> kind of protection.
>>
> With IRQ remapping it doesn't mean you can pass through MSI-X
> structure to guest. I know actual IRQ remapping might be platform
> specific, but at least for Intel VT-d specification, MSI-X entry must
> be configured with a remappable format by host kernel which
> contains an index into IRQ remapping table. The index will find a
> IRQ remapping entry which controls interrupt routing for a specific
> device. If you allow a malicious program random index into MSI-X
> entry of assigned device, the hole is obvious...

Do you mean we can trigger MSIs that correspond to interrupt
IDs of other devices by writing to MSI-X table although IRQ
remapping is enabled?

On PPC64, there is a mapping between MSIs and PE num
which can be used to identify a PCI device on PHB. So the
hardware can ensure a given pci device can only shoot the
MSIs assigned for it.  Isn't there a similar mapping in IRQ
remapping table on Intel.

Thanks,
Yongji

> Above might make sense only for a IRQ remapping implementation
> which doesn't rely on extended MSI-X format (e.g. simply based on
> BDF). If that's the case for PPC, then you should build MSI-X
> passthrough based on this fact instead of general IRQ remapping
> enabled or not.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-05 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-27 12:43 [PATCH 0/5] vfio-pci: Add support for mmapping MSI-X table Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] PCI: Add a new PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP flag Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 20:55   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if IOMMU have capability of IRQ remapping Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 21:11   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
     [not found]     ` <201605250554.u4P5sRqv014439@mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com>
     [not found]       ` <201605250554.u4P5sRqv014439-QbrlkLqkJHK1JOh/WJROsbgYzuMpulrC0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-26  3:48         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] PCI: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if MSI controller supports " Yongji Xie
     [not found]   ` <1461761010-5452-4-git-send-email-xyjxie-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-24 21:04     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:48       ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:48       ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:48       ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:48       ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-25  5:48       ` Yongji Xie
     [not found] ` <1461761010-5452-1-git-send-email-xyjxie-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-27 12:43   ` [PATCH 4/5] pci-ioda: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP for IODA host bridge Yongji Xie
     [not found]     ` <1461761010-5452-5-git-send-email-xyjxie-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  6:34       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-04-27 12:43   ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported Yongji Xie
2016-05-03  5:34     ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]       ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F842512-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03  6:08         ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-03  6:22           ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F842653-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03  7:34               ` Yongji Xie
     [not found]                 ` <e064a6a7-a8dc-f71f-1725-f31e03581b8d-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05  9:36                   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F847150-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05  9:54                       ` David Laight
     [not found]                         ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D5F4B52B5-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 11:42                           ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 12:15                             ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                               ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F8474A4-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-05 13:28                                 ` Yongji Xie [this message]
2016-05-05 15:05                               ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                 ` <20160505090513.56886c12-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06  6:35                                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
     [not found]                                     ` <fa5555df-b8d2-70ea-e9af-81336c431a67-sLpHqDYs0B2HXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-06 16:54                                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-11  6:29                                   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                     ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F84EEBA-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-11 15:53                                       ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                         ` <20160511095331.18436241-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-12  1:19                                           ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F850046-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-12  2:20                                               ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                                 ` <20160511202042.77593861-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-12  4:53                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12 17:47                                                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13  2:33                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  5:32                                                         ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                                           ` <20160512233246.347b8b3c-1yVPhWWZRC1BDLzU/O5InQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-13  6:50                                                             ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]                                                               ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F854287-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-13 16:42                                                                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13  9:16                                                             ` David Laight
2016-05-13  2:36                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 11:44                     ` Yongji Xie

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