From: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/23] iommu: introduce device fault report API
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 09:11:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <953746f3-352b-cd17-9938-eb78af3b58a9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <289610e3-2633-e448-259c-194e6f2c2b52@arm.com>
Hi Jean-Philippe,
On 09/06/2018 07:06 PM, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> On 06/09/2018 14:14, Auger Eric wrote:
>> Hi Jean-Philippe,
>>
>> On 09/06/2018 02:42 PM, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
>>> On 06/09/2018 10:25, Auger Eric wrote:
>>>>> + mutex_lock(&fparam->lock);
>>>>> + list_add_tail(&evt_pending->list, &fparam->faults);
>>>> same doubt as Yi Liu. You cannot rely on the userspace willingness to
>>>> void the queue and deallocate this memory.
>>
>> By the way I saw there is a kind of garbage collectors for faults which
>> wouldn't have received any responses. However I am not sure this removes
>> the concern of having the fault list on kernel side growing beyond
>> acceptable limits.
>
> How about per-device quotas? (https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/4/23/706 for
> reference) With PRI the IOMMU driver already sets per-device credits
> when initializing the device (pci_enable_pri), so if the device behaves
> properly it shouldn't send new page requests once the number of
> outstanding ones is maxed out.
But this needs to work for non PRI use case too?
>
> The stall mode of SMMU doesn't have per-device limit, and depending on
> the implementation it might be easy for one guest using stall to prevent
> other guests from receiving faults. For this reason we'll have to
> enforce a per-device stall quota in the SMMU driver, and immediately
> terminate faults that exceed this quota. We could easily do the same for
> PRI, if we don't trust devices to follow the spec. The difficult part is
> finding the right number of credits...
>
>>> Host device drivers that use this API to be notified on fault can't deal
>>> with arch-specific event formats (SMMU event, Vt-d fault event, etc), so
>>> the APIs should be arch-agnostic. Given that requirement, using a single
>>> iommu_fault_event structure for both PRI and event queues made sense,
>>> especially since the even queue can have stall events that look a lot
>>> like PRI page requests.
>> I understand the data structure needs to be generic. Now I guess PRI
>> events and other standard translator error events (that can happen
>> without PRI) may have different characteristics in event fields,
>
> Right, an event contains more information than a PRI page request.
> Stage-2 fields (CLASS, S2, IPA, TTRnW) cannot be represented by
> iommu_fault_event at the moment.
Yes I am currently doing the mapping exercise between SMMUv3 events and
iommu_fault_event and I miss config errors for instance.
For precise emulation it might be
> useful to at least add the S2 flag (as a new iommu_fault_reason?), so
> that when the guest maps stage-1 to an invalid GPA, QEMU could for
> example inject an external abort.
Actually we may even need to filter events and return to the guest only
the S1 related.
>
>> queue
>> size, that may deserve to create different APIs and internal data
>> structs. Also this may help separating the concerns.
>
> It might duplicate them. If the consumer of the event report is a host
> device driver, the SMMU needs to report a "generic" iommu_fault_event,
> and if the consumer is VFIO it would report a specialized one
I am unsure of my understanding of the UNRECOVERABLE error type. Is it
everything else than a PRI. For instance are all SMMUv3 event errors
supposed to be put under the IOMMU_FAULT_DMA_UNRECOV umbrella?
If I understand correctly there are different consumers for PRI and
unrecoverable data, so why not having 2 different APIs.
>
>> My remark also
>> stems from the fact the SMMU uses 2 different queues, whose size can
>> also be different.
>
> Hm, for PRI requests the kernel-userspace queue size should actually be
> the number of PRI credits for that device. Hadn't thought about it
> before, where do we pass that info to userspace?
Cannot help here at the moment, sorry.
For fault events, the
> queue could be as big as the SMMU event queue, though using all that
> space might be wasteful.
The guest has its own programming of the SMMU_EVENTQ_BASE.LOG2SIZE. This
could be used to program the SW fifo
Non-stalled events should be rare and reporting
> them isn't urgent. Stalled ones would need the number of stall credits I
> mentioned above, which realistically will be a lot less than the SMMU
> event queue size. Given that a device will use either PRI or stall but
> not both, I still think events and PRI could go through the same queue.
Did I get it right PRI is for PCIe and STALL for non PCIe? But all that
stuff also is related to Page Request use case, right?
Thanks
Eric
>
> Thanks,
> Jean
>
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Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-11 20:53 [PATCH v5 00/23] IOMMU and VT-d driver support for Shared Virtual Address (SVA) Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-1-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 01/23] iommu: introduce bind_pasid_table API function Jacob Pan
2018-08-23 16:34 ` Auger Eric
[not found] ` <e9ddb745-9cfb-1d40-05e0-7bd75292a41f-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 12:47 ` Liu, Yi L
2018-08-24 13:20 ` Auger Eric
2018-08-28 17:04 ` Jacob Pan
2018-08-24 15:00 ` Auger Eric
2018-08-28 5:14 ` Jacob Pan
2018-08-28 8:34 ` Auger Eric
2018-08-28 16:36 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 02/23] iommu/vt-d: move device_domain_info to header Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 03/23] iommu/vt-d: add a flag for pasid table bound status Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-4-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-13 7:33 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF7EA43.5060805-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 18:51 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-13 8:01 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF7F0EE.902-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 18:52 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 04/23] iommu/vt-d: add bind_pasid_table function Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-5-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-13 9:29 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF8058B.4090703-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:22 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 06/23] iommu/vt-d: add definitions for PFSID Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-7-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 1:36 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF8E808.5030402-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:30 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 08/23] iommu/vt-d: support flushing more translation cache types Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-9-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 2:18 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF8F204.2010800-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:46 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 8:44 ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 09/23] iommu/vt-d: add svm/sva invalidate function Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-10-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 3:35 ` Lu Baolu
2018-05-14 20:49 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 10/23] iommu: introduce device fault data Jacob Pan
2018-09-21 10:07 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-21 17:05 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 10:20 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 11/23] driver core: add per device iommu param Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-12-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 5:27 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF91E31.9060705-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:52 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 12/23] iommu: add a timeout parameter for prq response Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 16/23] iommu/config: add build dependency for dmar Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 17/23] iommu/vt-d: report non-recoverable faults to device Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-18-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 8:17 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF94618.2080403-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 17:33 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-29 15:54 ` [PATCH v5 00/23] IOMMU and VT-d driver support for Shared Virtual Address (SVA) Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 05/23] iommu: introduce iommu invalidate API function Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:53 ` [PATCH v5 07/23] iommu/vt-d: fix dev iotlb pfsid use Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-8-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 1:52 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF8EBC4.4040104-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:38 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 13/23] iommu: introduce device fault report API Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-14-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 6:01 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF92622.2090902-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 20:55 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-15 6:52 ` Lu Baolu
2018-05-17 11:41 ` Liu, Yi L
[not found] ` <A2975661238FB949B60364EF0F2C257439BF2537-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-17 15:59 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-17 23:22 ` Liu, Yi L
2018-05-21 23:03 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-25 14:58 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-25 22:17 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 10:14 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 9:25 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-06 12:42 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-06 13:14 ` Auger Eric
[not found] ` <9013df5a-02f9-55b8-eb5e-fad4be0a2c92-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06 17:06 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 7:11 ` Auger Eric [this message]
[not found] ` <953746f3-352b-cd17-9938-eb78af3b58a9-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07 11:23 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-14 13:24 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-17 16:57 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 14/23] iommu: introduce page response function Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-15-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 6:39 ` Lu Baolu
[not found] ` <5AF92F37.3050404-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-29 16:13 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-10 14:52 ` Auger Eric
2018-09-10 17:50 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-10 19:06 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 15/23] iommu: handle page response timeout Jacob Pan
[not found] ` <1526072055-86990-16-git-send-email-jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-05-14 7:43 ` Lu Baolu
2018-05-29 16:20 ` Jacob Pan
2018-05-30 7:46 ` Lu Baolu
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 18/23] iommu/intel-svm: report device page request Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 19/23] iommu/intel-svm: replace dev ops with fault report API Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 20/23] iommu/intel-svm: do not flush iotlb for viommu Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 21/23] iommu/vt-d: add intel iommu page response function Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 22/23] trace/iommu: add sva trace events Jacob Pan
2018-05-11 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 23/23] iommu: use sva invalidate and device fault trace event Jacob Pan
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