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From: Anup Patel <anup.patel@broadcom.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Baptiste Reynal <b.reynal@virtualopensystems.com>,
	Scott Branden <sbranden@broadcom.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM Kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	BCM Kernel Feedback <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM SMMUv3 driver
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 14:29:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAALAos8pLM203B5aRhDy0tkwQoWt3Nym8h2vYC7wLFq-5PpzVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170724130656.5240ae0d@w520.home>

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Alex Williamson
<alex.williamson@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:23:20 +0100
> Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24/07/17 18:16, Alex Williamson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:17:12 +0100
>> > Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 20/07/17 10:10, Will Deacon wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:32:00AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> There are two things here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>   1. iommu_present() is pretty useless, because it applies to a "bus" which
>> >>>>>      doesn't actually tell you what you need to know for things like the
>> >>>>>      platform_bus, where some masters might be upstream of an SMMU and
>> >>>>>      others might not be.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I agree with you. The iommu_present() check in vfio_iommu_group_get()
>> >>>> is not much useful. We only reach line which checks iommu_present()
>> >>>> when iommu_group_get() returns NULL for given "struct device *". If there
>> >>>> is no IOMMU group for a "struct device *" then it means there is no IOMMU
>> >>>> HW doing translations for such device.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we drop the iommu_present() check (due to above reasons) in
>> >>>> vfio_iommu_group_get() then we don't require the IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS
>> >>>> and we can happily drop PATCH1, PATCH2, and PATCH3.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I will remove the iommu_present() check in vfio_iommu_group_get()
>> >>>> because it is only comes into actions when VFIO_NOIOMMU is
>> >>>> enabled. This will also help us drop PATCH1-to-PATCH3.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think that's the right answer. Whilst iommu_present has obvious
>> >>> shortcomings, its intention is clear: it should tell you whether a given
>> >>> *device* is upstream of an IOMMU. So the right fix is to make this
>> >>> per-device, instead of per-bus. Removing it altogether is worse than leaving
>> >>> it like it is.
>> >>
>> >> Not really - if there is an IOMMU up and running to the point of setting
>> >> bus ops, every device it cares about can be expected to have a group
>> >> already (there are only a couple of drivers left that don't use groups,
>> >> and they're hardly relevant to VFIO). Thus iommu_group_get() already is
>> >> the de-facto per-device IOMMU check.
>> >>
>> >> And having looked into it, I'm now spinning a couple of patches to
>> >> finish off making groups truly mandatory so that that can be less
>> >> de-facto ;)
>> >
>> > No, look at vfio-noiommu and even vfio-mdev devices for devices which
>> > have an iommu group but there is no physical iommu supporting them.
>> > iommu_present() is how we can distinguish these groups and therefore
>> > not generate a segfault in trying to use the full IOMMU API on them.
>>
>> OK, so that means that the combination of vfio-noiommu and vfio-platform
>> is simply unusable, because iommu_present(&platform_bus_type) can give
>> such dangerous false positives too.
>
> Yep, this kinda falls apart since platform_bus_type doesn't really map
> to a physical bus, nor does the presence of a group canonically
> demonstrate that an iommu is present since anyone can create a group
> for a device.  We really do need to migrate to per-device iommu_ops.
> Thanks,

Yes, per-device iommu_ops will make things much cleaner. That's why
I have dropped VFIO no-IOMMU and IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS related
patches.

Can you please have a look at FlexRM platform reset driver?

Regards,
Anup

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-25  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-19  9:33 [PATCH 0/5] FlexRM support in VFIO platform Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] iommu: Add capability IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS Anup Patel
     [not found]   ` <1500456838-18405-2-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 10:58     ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-19 11:19       ` Anup Patel
     [not found]         ` <CAALAos_o25mtphxcVE0rr9dE8YAm-os2C_HD9oDnt41ZMDP8pA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:23           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-19 11:26             ` Anup Patel
     [not found]               ` <CAALAos8nf-d5i74J7-sAJb2o9eFj2PVDeLLVd=wun+gW1ihXSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:29                 ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-19 11:30                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                   ` <20170719113017.GH13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:33                     ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu/arm-smmu: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM SMMU driver Anup Patel
     [not found]   ` <1500456838-18405-3-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 10:59     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found] ` <1500456838-18405-1-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19  9:33   ` [PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM SMMUv3 driver Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19 11:00     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]       ` <ace28bd1-2dd3-482c-d11b-539c055ee9b7-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:23         ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]           ` <CAALAos8y0kLGrbwgz3u=ZVyteSicuPyQZ3Yp=LPZohXzVaE5NQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:25             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20170719112524.GF13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:31                 ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                   ` <CAALAos_xGCt7U1Oz5uCf9Q4hP6fdn4fcymFNQP5xO_UBduSY3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:33                     ` Will Deacon
2017-07-19 11:39                       ` Anup Patel
     [not found]                         ` <CAALAos99HWLoW=0P-dvFA+oNsF03TRNzNbfppyQNtqmcRELXXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:53                           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                             ` <20170719115333.GJ13642-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  4:02                               ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                                 ` <CAALAos-YbVbgvPmDYXeWaF4y8MQ9i7CG3tgGuf-QLR6hmXo18Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  9:10                                   ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                     ` <20170720091003.GA17837-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20 11:08                                       ` Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]                                         ` <CAALAos8571-UVp7Ky81qFESVcNcWx_H2VOemFt_++NFCxcMg3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20 11:17                                           ` Will Deacon
2017-07-20 11:17                                       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                                         ` <8e82d8f5-e5e2-dd09-c774-29f9eda2ecdd-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 17:16                                           ` Alex Williamson
     [not found]                                             ` <20170724111621.7f1c3a85-DGNDKt5SQtizQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 17:23                                               ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                                                 ` <6468f359-1682-b9b0-5a4d-72738939cb84-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-24 19:06                                                   ` Alex Williamson
2017-07-25  8:59                                                     ` Anup Patel [this message]
2017-07-19  9:33   ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio: platform: reset: Add Broadcom FlexRM reset module Anup Patel via iommu
     [not found]     ` <1500456838-18405-6-git-send-email-anup.patel-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 16:50       ` Scott Branden via iommu
     [not found]         ` <27236534-a9fb-53bc-f0c6-eb674833a94e-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-20  4:05           ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19  9:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio: Allow No-IOMMU mode for IOMMUs with bypass capability Anup Patel
2017-07-19 10:57 ` [PATCH 0/5] FlexRM support in VFIO platform Robin Murphy
     [not found]   ` <0dc860ed-a40c-1bfd-f584-225807edb25b-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:17     ` Anup Patel via iommu
2017-07-19 11:25       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]         ` <d4ef45d5-43cc-c632-082d-a92b8681faee-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-19 11:28           ` Anup Patel via iommu

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