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From: Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <Jean-Philippe.Brucker@arm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: userspace emulated smmu/vfio integration: how to trap updates to the table structures?
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 10:17:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMJs5B-jdS+pWO+BEBAoprB+yRuRiWJWDewA96caniXXVK22kQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04a1dd2e-737c-3cb0-6cd8-71a783f463c8@redhat.com>

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi Christoffer,
>
> On 02/05/2017 09:53, Christoffer Dall wrote:
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Will, Robin, Jean-Philippe,
>>>
>>> I have been working on the integration between user-space emulated
>>> SMMU-v3 and VFIO in QEMU. At the moment I fail identifying a proper easy
>>> way to trap page table updates. This is requested to keep the host
>>> translation structures consistent to guest translation structures.
>>>
>>> On Intel VTD there is a so-called "caching mode" (CM, see VTD spec
>>> paragraph 6.1) that forces the OS to explicitly invalidate caches
>>> whenever it updates any remapping structure (updates to not-present or
>>> present entries). Those invalidation commands are used to trap and
>>> update host structures. This mode was devised for virtualization. I was
>>> not able to find such "caching mode" on ARM SMMU. Is there any?
>>>
>>> If not, do you have any other suggestion, I mean, besides the
>>> virtio-based solution.
>>>
>>>
>> Worst case, can you make the guest page tables read-only and catch the
>> faults and propagate changes to SMMU translations?
>
> The issue I foresee is there are up to 4 level of page tables to trap.
> This would lead to plenty of regions to "translate" on qemu side. Also,
> besides the 1st level pointed by TTBR found in stage 1 context
> descriptor, other page regions would be discovered dynamically as
> mapping are built. To me this is the last resort solution if confirmed
> feasible.
>
Completely agree, it would be a terrible solution.

Thanks,
-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-02  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-02  7:30 userspace emulated smmu/vfio integration: how to trap updates to the table structures? Auger Eric
2017-05-02  7:53 ` Christoffer Dall
2017-05-02  8:13   ` Auger Eric
2017-05-02  8:17     ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-05-02 15:22       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-02 15:42         ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]           ` <0d310113-af68-2154-8dd3-a00b0c9a76ed-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-02 16:20             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-02 17:01             ` Auger Eric
2017-05-02 15:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-02 17:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-09 13:48   ` Auger Eric

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