From: Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@google.com>,
iommu@lists.linux.dev, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Ashish Mhetre <amhetre@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 07/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops
Date: Mon, 4 May 2026 11:15:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afh_2nvUtVeOkrda@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260424151325.GD3611611@ziepe.ca>
On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 12:13:25PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 01:40:53PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
>
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * This should always return true if devlinks are setup correctly
> > > > + * and the client using the SMMU is active.
> > > > + */
> > > > +__maybe_unused bool arm_smmu_rpm_get_if_active(struct arm_smmu_device *smmu)
> > > > +{
> > > > + if (!arm_smmu_is_active(smmu))
> > > > + return false;
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if this check is redundant. What would happen if we removed it?
> > >
> >
> > You're right that pm_runtime_get_if_active() shall suffice. However, I
> > added the arm_smmu_is_active() check as a lockless fast path for unmaps
> >
> > Consider a scneario where there're high-frequency unmaps (unmap-storm)
> > while the SMMU is suspended. Without this check, every thread would
> > contend for the dev->power.lock spinlock inside the RPM core
> > (pm_runtime_get_if_active) just to discover the device is not active.
> >
> > This check allows CPUs to elide the command immediately without
> > contending for the dev->power.lock spinlock inside the RPM core
> > (get_if_active call) and avoids unnecessary cacheline bouncing when the
> > SMMU is suspended.
>
> But these sorts of pre checks are almost always racy, I think you need a
> comment or lockdep statement explaining how the locking works.
Ack. It is a benign race in this case and the check serves as a
performance heuristic to avoid dev->power.lock contention during unmap
storms while the SMMU is suspended.
The race is safe because the check is layered:
if a thread incorrectly passes this pre-check while the SMMU is
suspending, it will either be caught by the subsequent call to
pm_runtime_get_if_active() or by the final, Q_STOP check in the
arm_smmu_cmdq_issue_cmdlist() at the point of commitment.
I'll add a comment explaining this approach to clarify the intent.
Thanks,
Praan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-04 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-14 19:46 [PATCH v6 00/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement Runtime/System Sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Refactor arm_smmu_setup_irqs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add a helper to drain cmd queues Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add a helper to drain VCMDQs Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Restore PROD and CONS after resume Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Cache and restore MSI config Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add CMDQ_PROD_STOP_FLAG to gate CMDQ submissions Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-22 4:31 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-22 12:18 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement pm_runtime & system sleep ops Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-21 4:47 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-22 12:20 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-21 15:46 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-22 12:23 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-22 4:25 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-22 13:40 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-24 5:24 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-24 15:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-04 9:01 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-24 15:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-04 11:15 ` Pranjal Shrivastava [this message]
2026-05-19 20:50 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-04-14 19:47 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Handle gerror during suspend Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:47 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable pm_runtime and setup devlinks Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-04-14 19:47 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Invoke pm_runtime before hw access Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-05-19 18:31 ` Daniel Mentz
2026-05-25 19:53 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
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