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From: William Davis <wdavis@nvidia.com>
To: "markh@compro.net" <markh@compro.net>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"jglisse@redhat.com" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Terence Ripperda <TRipperda@nvidia.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/6] IOMMU/DMA map_resource support for peer-to-peer
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 20:05:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2ae7590ce2c4dd7a8408f739e3aea54@HQMAIL106.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <554D2099.2030907@compro.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hounschell [mailto:markh@compro.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:46 PM
> To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk; William Davis
> Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; jglisse@redhat.com; John Hubbard;
> Terence Ripperda
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] IOMMU/DMA map_resource support for peer-to-peer
> 
> On 05/08/2015 04:21 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 01:32:12PM -0500, wdavis@nvidia.com wrote:
> >> From: Will Davis <wdavis@nvidia.com>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> ...
> >>
> >> This solves a long-standing problem with the existing DMA-remapping interfaces,
> >> which require that a struct page be given for the region to be mapped into a
> >> device's IOVA domain. This requirement cannot support peer device BAR ranges,
> >> for which no struct pages exist.
> >>
> ...
> >>
> >> The Intel and nommu versions have been verified on a dual Intel Xeon E5405
> >> workstation.
> 
> PCIe peer2peer is borked on all motherboards I've tried. Only writes are
> possible. Reads are not supported. I suppose if you have a platform with
> only PCI and an IOMMU this would be very useful. Without both read and
> write PCIe peer2peer support, this seems unnecessary.
> 

PCIe peer-to-peer isn't inherently broken or useless itself, even if a lot of its implementations are; I've successfully tested these patches with existing hardware (dual NVIDIA GPUs + an old-ish workstation), and it solves a longstanding problem for us [1], so I disagree with the assessment that this would be unnecessary.

I guess I don't see why the existence of some, or even a lot of, poor implementations suffices as a reason to reject a generic mechanism to support the "good", standardized implementations.

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19841815/does-the-nvidia-rdma-gpudirect-always-operate-only-physical-addresses-in-physic

Thanks,
Will

--
nvpublic

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-11 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-01 18:32 [PATCH 0/6] IOMMU/DMA map_resource support for peer-to-peer wdavis-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 1/6] dma-debug: add checking for map/unmap_resource wdavis
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 2/6] DMA-API: Introduce dma_(un)map_resource wdavis
2015-05-07 15:09   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-07 16:10     ` William Davis
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 3/6] dma-mapping: pci: add pci_(un)map_resource wdavis
     [not found]   ` <1430505138-2877-4-git-send-email-wdavis-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-07 15:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]       ` <20150507151905.GL24643-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 14:30         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-05-11 15:27           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 4/6] iommu/amd: Implement (un)map_resource wdavis
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 5/6] iommu/vt-d: implement (un)map_resource wdavis
2015-05-01 18:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86: add pci-nommu implementation of map_resource wdavis
2015-05-07 15:08   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-07 16:07     ` William Davis
2015-05-06 22:18 ` [PATCH 0/6] IOMMU/DMA map_resource support for peer-to-peer Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-06 22:30   ` Alex Williamson
2015-05-07  1:48   ` Yijing Wang
2015-05-07 13:13     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-07 16:23       ` William Davis
2015-05-07 17:16         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2015-05-07 18:11           ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]             ` <20150507181110.GB5966-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 19:21               ` Don Dutile
2015-05-08 20:21 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-05-08 20:46   ` Mark Hounschell
     [not found]     ` <554D2099.2030907-n2QNKt385d+sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11 14:32       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-05-11 20:05     ` William Davis [this message]
2015-05-11 19:49   ` William Davis

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