From: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Rodel, Jorg" <jroedel@suse.de>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 09:28:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5e33ebb-29e6-029d-aef4-af5c4478185a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52762909D64C1194F4FCB4528C479@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Hi,
On 9/13/22 03:55, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> We didn't close the open of how to get this merged in LPC due to the
> audio issue. Then let's use mails.
>
> Overall there are three options on the table:
>
> 1) Require vfio-compat to be 100% compatible with vfio-type1
>
> Probably not a good choice given the amount of work to fix the remaining
> gaps. And this will block support of new IOMMU features for a longer time.
>
> 2) Leave vfio-compat as what it is in this series
>
> Treat it as a vehicle to validate the iommufd logic instead of immediately
> replacing vfio-type1. Functionally most vfio applications can work w/o
> change if putting aside the difference on locked mm accounting, p2p, etc.
>
> Then work on new features and 100% vfio-type1 compat. in parallel.
>
> 3) Focus on iommufd native uAPI first
>
> Require vfio_device cdev and adoption in Qemu. Only for new vfio app.
>
> Then work on new features and vfio-compat in parallel.
>
> I'm fine with either 2) or 3). Per a quick chat with Alex he prefers to 3).
I am also inclined to pursue 3) as this was the initial Jason's guidance
and pre-requisite to integrate new features. In the past we concluded
vfio-compat would mostly be used for testing purpose. Our QEMU
integration fully is based on device based API.
Thanks
Eric
>
> Jason, how about your opinion?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
>
>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:59 AM
>>
>> iommufd is the user API to control the IOMMU subsystem as it relates to
>> managing IO page tables that point at user space memory.
>>
>> It takes over from drivers/vfio/vfio_iommu_type1.c (aka the VFIO
>> container) which is the VFIO specific interface for a similar idea.
>>
>> We see a broad need for extended features, some being highly IOMMU
>> device
>> specific:
>> - Binding iommu_domain's to PASID/SSID
>> - Userspace page tables, for ARM, x86 and S390
>> - Kernel bypass'd invalidation of user page tables
>> - Re-use of the KVM page table in the IOMMU
>> - Dirty page tracking in the IOMMU
>> - Runtime Increase/Decrease of IOPTE size
>> - PRI support with faults resolved in userspace
>>
>> As well as a need to access these features beyond just VFIO, from VDPA for
>> instance. Other classes of accelerator HW are touching on these areas now
>> too.
>>
>> The pre-v1 series proposed re-using the VFIO type 1 data structure,
>> however it was suggested that if we are doing this big update then we
>> should also come with an improved data structure that solves the
>> limitations that VFIO type1 has. Notably this addresses:
>>
>> - Multiple IOAS/'containers' and multiple domains inside a single FD
>>
>> - Single-pin operation no matter how many domains and containers use
>> a page
>>
>> - A fine grained locking scheme supporting user managed concurrency for
>> multi-threaded map/unmap
>>
>> - A pre-registration mechanism to optimize vIOMMU use cases by
>> pre-pinning pages
>>
>> - Extended ioctl API that can manage these new objects and exposes
>> domains directly to user space
>>
>> - domains are sharable between subsystems, eg VFIO and VDPA
>>
>> The bulk of this code is a new data structure design to track how the
>> IOVAs are mapped to PFNs.
>>
>> iommufd intends to be general and consumable by any driver that wants to
>> DMA to userspace. From a driver perspective it can largely be dropped in
>> in-place of iommu_attach_device() and provides a uniform full feature set
>> to all consumers.
>>
>> As this is a larger project this series is the first step. This series
>> provides the iommfd "generic interface" which is designed to be suitable
>> for applications like DPDK and VMM flows that are not optimized to
>> specific HW scenarios. It is close to being a drop in replacement for the
>> existing VFIO type 1.
>>
>> Several follow-on series are being prepared:
>>
>> - Patches integrating with qemu in native mode:
>> https://github.com/yiliu1765/qemu/commits/qemu-iommufd-6.0-rc2
>>
>> - A completed integration with VFIO now exists that covers "emulated" mdev
>> use cases now, and can pass testing with qemu/etc in compatability mode:
>> https://github.com/jgunthorpe/linux/commits/vfio_iommufd
>>
>> - A draft providing system iommu dirty tracking on top of iommufd,
>> including iommu driver implementations:
>> https://github.com/jpemartins/linux/commits/x86-iommufd
>>
>> This pairs with patches for providing a similar API to support VFIO-device
>> tracking to give a complete vfio solution:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220901093853.60194-1-yishaih@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Userspace page tables aka 'nested translation' for ARM and Intel iommu
>> drivers:
>> https://github.com/nicolinc/iommufd/commits/iommufd_nesting
>>
>> - "device centric" vfio series to expose the vfio_device FD directly as a
>> normal cdev, and provide an extended API allowing dynamically changing
>> the IOAS binding:
>> https://github.com/yiliu1765/iommufd/commits/iommufd-v6.0-rc2-
>> nesting-0901
>>
>> - Drafts for PASID and PRI interfaces are included above as well
>>
>> Overall enough work is done now to show the merit of the new API design
>> and at least draft solutions to many of the main problems.
>>
>> Several people have contributed directly to this work: Eric Auger, Joao
>> Martins, Kevin Tian, Lu Baolu, Nicolin Chen, Yi L Liu. Many more have
>> participated in the discussions that lead here, and provided ideas. Thanks
>> to all!
>>
>> The v1 iommufd series has been used to guide a large amount of preparatory
>> work that has now been merged. The general theme is to organize things in
>> a way that makes injecting iommufd natural:
>>
>> - VFIO live migration support with mlx5 and hisi_acc drivers.
>> These series need a dirty tracking solution to be really usable.
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220224142024.147653-1-
>> yishaih@nvidia.com/
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220308184902.2242-1-
>> shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com/
>>
>> - Significantly rework the VFIO gvt mdev and remove struct
>> mdev_parent_ops
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220411141403.86980-1-hch@lst.de/
>>
>> - Rework how PCIe no-snoop blocking works
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v3-2cf356649677+a32-
>> intel_no_snoop_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Consolidate dma ownership into the iommu core code
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220418005000.897664-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>>
>> - Make all vfio driver interfaces use struct vfio_device consistently
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v4-8045e76bf00b+13d-
>> vfio_mdev_no_group_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Remove the vfio_group from the kvm/vfio interface
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v3-f7729924a7ea+25e33-
>> vfio_kvm_no_group_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Simplify locking in vfio
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v2-d035a1842d81+1bf-
>> vfio_group_locking_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Remove the vfio notifiter scheme that faces drivers
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v4-681e038e30fd+78-
>> vfio_unmap_notif_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Improve the driver facing API for vfio pin/unpin pages to make the
>> presence of struct page clear
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220723020256.30081-1-
>> nicolinc@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Clean up in the Intel IOMMU driver
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220301020159.633356-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220510023407.2759143-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220514014322.2927339-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220706025524.2904370-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220702015610.2849494-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>>
>> - Rework s390 vfio drivers
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220707135737.720765-1-
>> farman@linux.ibm.com/
>>
>> - Normalize vfio ioctl handling
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v2-0f9e632d54fb+d6-
>> vfio_ioctl_split_jgg@nvidia.com/
>>
>> This is about 168 patches applied since March, thank you to everyone
>> involved in all this work!
>>
>> Currently there are a number of supporting series still in progress:
>> - Simplify and consolidate iommu_domain/device compatability checking
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220815181437.28127-1-
>> nicolinc@nvidia.com/
>>
>> - Align iommu SVA support with the domain-centric model
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iommu/20220826121141.50743-1-
>> baolu.lu@linux.intel.com/
>>
>> - VFIO API for dirty tracking (aka dma logging) managed inside a PCI
>> device, with mlx5 implementation
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220901093853.60194-1-yishaih@nvidia.com
>>
>> - Introduce a struct device sysfs presence for struct vfio_device
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220901143747.32858-1-
>> kevin.tian@intel.com/
>>
>> - Complete restructuring the vfio mdev model
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220822062208.152745-1-hch@lst.de/
>>
>> - DMABUF exporter support for VFIO to allow PCI P2P with VFIO
>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/0-v2-472615b3877e+28f7-
>> vfio_dma_buf_jgg@nvidia.com
>>
>> - Isolate VFIO container code in preperation for iommufd to provide an
>> alternative implementation of it all
>> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/0-v1-a805b607f1fb+17b-
>> vfio_container_split_jgg@nvidia.com
>>
>> - Start to provide iommu_domain ops for power
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220714081822.3717693-1-aik@ozlabs.ru/
>>
>> Right now there is no more preperatory work sketched out, so this is the
>> last of it.
>>
>> This series remains RFC as there are still several important FIXME's to
>> deal with first, but things are on track for non-RFC in the near future.
>>
>> This is on github: https://github.com/jgunthorpe/linux/commits/iommufd
>>
>> v2:
>> - Rebase to v6.0-rc3
>> - Improve comments
>> - Change to an iterative destruction approach to avoid cycles
>> - Near rewrite of the vfio facing implementation, supported by a complete
>> implementation on the vfio side
>> - New IOMMU_IOAS_ALLOW_IOVAS API as discussed. Allows userspace to
>> assert that ranges of IOVA must always be mappable. To be used by a
>> VMM
>> that has promised a guest a certain availability of IOVA. May help
>> guide PPC's multi-window implementation.
>> - Rework how unmap_iova works, user can unmap the whole ioas now
>> - The no-snoop / wbinvd support is implemented
>> - Bug fixes
>> - Test suite improvements
>> - Lots of smaller changes (the interdiff is 3k lines)
>> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0-v1-e79cd8d168e8+6-
>> iommufd_jgg@nvidia.com
>>
>> # S390 in-kernel page table walker
>> Cc: Niklas Schnelle <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
>> Cc: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
>> # AMD Dirty page tracking
>> Cc: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
>> # ARM SMMU Dirty page tracking
>> Cc: Keqian Zhu <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>
>> Cc: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
>> # ARM SMMU nesting
>> Cc: Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>
>> # Map/unmap performance
>> Cc: Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>
>> # VDPA
>> Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>> # Power
>> Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
>> # vfio
>> Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
>> Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
>> # iommu
>> Cc: iommu@lists.linux.dev
>> # Collaborators
>> Cc: "Chaitanya Kulkarni" <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
>> Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
>> Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>
>> Cc: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
>> # s390
>> Cc: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>>
>> Jason Gunthorpe (12):
>> interval-tree: Add a utility to iterate over spans in an interval tree
>> iommufd: File descriptor, context, kconfig and makefiles
>> kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd
>> iommufd: PFN handling for iopt_pages
>> iommufd: Algorithms for PFN storage
>> iommufd: Data structure to provide IOVA to PFN mapping
>> iommufd: IOCTLs for the io_pagetable
>> iommufd: Add a HW pagetable object
>> iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for physical devices
>> iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for kernel access
>> iommufd: vfio container FD ioctl compatibility
>> iommufd: Add a selftest
>>
>> Kevin Tian (1):
>> iommufd: Overview documentation
>>
>> .clang-format | 1 +
>> Documentation/userspace-api/index.rst | 1 +
>> .../userspace-api/ioctl/ioctl-number.rst | 1 +
>> Documentation/userspace-api/iommufd.rst | 224 +++
>> MAINTAINERS | 10 +
>> drivers/iommu/Kconfig | 1 +
>> drivers/iommu/Makefile | 2 +-
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/Kconfig | 22 +
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/Makefile | 13 +
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c | 580 +++++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/hw_pagetable.c | 68 +
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/io_pagetable.c | 984 ++++++++++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/io_pagetable.h | 186 +++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/ioas.c | 338 ++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/iommufd_private.h | 266 ++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/iommufd_test.h | 74 +
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/main.c | 392 +++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/pages.c | 1301 +++++++++++++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/selftest.c | 626 ++++++++
>> drivers/iommu/iommufd/vfio_compat.c | 423 +++++
>> include/linux/interval_tree.h | 47 +
>> include/linux/iommufd.h | 101 ++
>> include/linux/sched/user.h | 2 +-
>> include/uapi/linux/iommufd.h | 279 ++++
>> kernel/user.c | 1 +
>> lib/interval_tree.c | 98 ++
>> tools/testing/selftests/Makefile | 1 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/iommu/.gitignore | 2 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/iommu/Makefile | 11 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/iommu/config | 2 +
>> tools/testing/selftests/iommu/iommufd.c | 1396 +++++++++++++++++
>> 31 files changed, 7451 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/iommufd.rst
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/Kconfig
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/Makefile
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/device.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/hw_pagetable.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/io_pagetable.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/io_pagetable.h
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/ioas.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/iommufd_private.h
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/iommufd_test.h
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/main.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/pages.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/selftest.c
>> create mode 100644 drivers/iommu/iommufd/vfio_compat.c
>> create mode 100644 include/linux/iommufd.h
>> create mode 100644 include/uapi/linux/iommufd.h
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/iommu/.gitignore
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/iommu/Makefile
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/iommu/config
>> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/iommu/iommufd.c
>>
>>
>> base-commit: b90cb1053190353cc30f0fef0ef1f378ccc063c5
>> --
>> 2.37.3
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-02 19:59 [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/13] interval-tree: Add a utility to iterate over spans in an interval tree Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/13] iommufd: Overview documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-07 1:39 ` David Gibson
2022-09-09 18:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-12 10:40 ` David Gibson
2022-09-27 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-29 3:47 ` David Gibson
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/13] iommufd: File descriptor, context, kconfig and makefiles Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04 8:19 ` Baolu Lu
2022-09-09 18:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/13] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/13] iommufd: PFN handling for iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/13] iommufd: Algorithms for PFN storage Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/13] iommufd: Data structure to provide IOVA to PFN mapping Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/13] iommufd: IOCTLs for the io_pagetable Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/13] iommufd: Add a HW pagetable object Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/13] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for physical devices Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/13] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for kernel access Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/13] iommufd: vfio container FD ioctl compatibility Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/13] iommufd: Add a selftest Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-13 1:55 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface Tian, Kevin
2022-09-13 7:28 ` Eric Auger [this message]
2022-09-20 19:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 3:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 18:06 ` Alex Williamson
2022-09-21 18:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 19:30 ` Steven Sistare
2022-09-21 23:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-06 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-06 22:57 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-10 20:54 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-11 12:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-11 20:30 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 12:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 13:50 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 14:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 14:55 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 23:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 11:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 15:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 15:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 8:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 13:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 13:35 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 13:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 15:40 ` Laine Stump
2022-10-21 19:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:03 ` Alex Williamson
2022-09-26 6:34 ` David Gibson
2022-09-21 22:36 ` Laine Stump
2022-09-22 11:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 14:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-13 2:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-20 20:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 3:40 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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