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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-ia64-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
	<konrad.wilk-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe-Gsx/Oe8HsFggBc27wqDAHg@public.gmane.org>,
	linuxppc-dev-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] kernel/dma/direct: refine dma_direct_alloc zone selection
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:01:45 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9866d44704073ecc418f62da0ba7587ce7c9af8.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180822065856.GC19284-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 08:58 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 09:54:33AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-07-30 at 18:38 +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > We need to take the DMA offset and encryption bit into account when selecting
> > > a zone.  Add a helper that takes those into account and use it.
> > 
> > That whole "encryption" stuff seems to be completely specific to the
> > way x86 does memory encryption, or am I mistaken ? It's not clear to me
> > what that does in practice and how it relates to DMA mappings.
> 
> Not even all of x86, but AMD in particular, Intel does it yet another
> way.  But it still is easier to take this into the core with a few
> overrides than duplicating all the code.
> 
> > I'm also not sure about that whole business with ZONE_DMA and
> > ARCH_ZONE_DMA_BITS...
> 
> ZONE_DMA usually (but not always) maps to 24-bits of address space,
> if it doesn't (I mostly through about s390 with it's odd 31-bits)
> the architecture can override it if it cares).
> 
> > On ppc64, unless you enable swiotlb (which we only do currently on
> > some embedded platforms), you have all of memory in ZONE_DMA.
> > 
> > [    0.000000] Zone ranges:
> > [    0.000000]   DMA      [mem 0x0000000000000000-0x0000001fffffffff]
> > [    0.000000]   DMA32    empty
> > [    0.000000]   Normal   empty
> > [    0.000000]   Device   empty
> 
> This is really weird.  Why would you wire up ZONE_DMA like this?

We always did :-) It predates my involvement and I think it predates
even Pauls. It's quite silly actually since the first powerpc machines
actually had ISA devices in them, but that's how it's been for ever. I
suppose we could change it but that would mean digging out some old
stuff to test.

> The general scheme that architectures should implement is:
> 
> ZONE_DMA:	Any memory below a magic threshold that is lower than
> 		32-bit.  Only enabled if actually required (usually
> 		either 24-bit for ISA, or some other weird architecture
> 		specific value like 32-bit for S/390)

It should have been ZONE_ISA_DMA :-)

> ZONE_DMA32:	Memory <= 32-bit if the architecture supports more than
> 		32-bits worth of physical address space.  Should generally
> 		be enabled on all 64-bit architectures unless you have
> 		a very good reason not to.

Yeah so we sort-of enable the config option but only populate the zone
on platforms using swiotlb (freescale stuff). It's a bit messy at the
moment I must admit.

> ZONE_NORMAL:	Everything above 32-bit not falling into HIGHMEM or
> 		MOVEABLE.

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-23  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-30 16:38 use generic DMA mapping code in powerpc Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <20180730163824.10064-1-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 01/20] kernel/dma/direct: take DMA offset into account in dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-2-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08 23:44       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <74068e4d2135ecad8645048ed97b1114891ccace.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22  6:53           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20180822065359.GB19284-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22 23:59               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]                 ` <079a961eaf548644250719df83930d3d72e34cac.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-23  5:24                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20180823052403.GA14388-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-23  5:24                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 02/20] kernel/dma/direct: refine dma_direct_alloc zone selection Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-3-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08 23:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <7177553cdb5cd1b968f653a52d7e88bd71aae4d8.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22  6:58           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20180822065856.GC19284-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-23  0:01               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <d9866d44704073ecc418f62da0ba7587ce7c9af8.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-23  5:26                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 03/20] dma-mapping: make the get_required_mask method available unconditionally Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 04/20] ia64: remove get_required_mask implementation Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 05/20] swiotlb: allow the architecture to provide a get_required_mask hook Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-6-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-27 16:06       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 06/20] dma-noncoherent: add an optional arch hook for ->get_required_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 07/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ARCH_HAS_DMA_MMAP_COHERENT define Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-8-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-08 23:56       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 08/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused dma_nommu_ops export Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-9-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-31 12:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20180731121625.GA29793-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:01           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]             ` <f7daffa5481ab82f345aa5bf9f63f40caa068456.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22  6:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <20180822064531.GA19284-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22 23:50                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 09/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ISA_DMA_THRESHOLD export Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-10-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 10/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: don't disable irqs over kmap_atomic Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-11-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:27       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <bfa22816fee0759cfee28705b427be3586c7d2e3.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22  7:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20180822070241.GD19284-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22 23:45               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 11/20] powerpc/dma: split the two __dma_alloc_coherent implementations Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-12-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:40       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 12/20] powerpc/dma: use phys_to_dma instead of get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-13-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 13/20] powerpc/dma: remove get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-14-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 14/20] powerpc/dma: replace dma_nommu_dma_supported with dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-15-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 15/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused unmap_page and unmap_sg methods Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-16-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 16/20] powerpc/dma: use dma_direct_{alloc,free} Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-17-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:52       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-27  8:51         ` Scott Wood
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 17/20] powerpc/dma-swiotlb: use generic swiotlb_dma_ops Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-18-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  0:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]         ` <556a4302d13b1caafb223112c4de43d959146215.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  1:57           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]             ` <777010cd04645b55aa4197eddcc880f010f0ef6d.camel-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-22  7:04               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 18/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: use generic dma_noncoherent_ops Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-19-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  1:00       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 19/20] powerpc/dma: use the generic dma-direct map_page and map_sg routines Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38   ` [PATCH 20/20] powerpc/dma: remove dma_nommu_mmap_coherent Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20180730163824.10064-21-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-09  1:05       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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