From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] iommufd: Destroy vdevice on device unbind
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 09:58:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5abjqotim7.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250613124202.GD1130869@ziepe.ca>
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> writes:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 07:31:48AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> yeah that seems to be the option if the said life-cycle dependency
>> cannot be removed...
>>
>> conceptually it's still a bit unclean as the user needs to know that
>> the vdevice object is special after idevice is unbound i.e. it can only
>> be destroyed instead of supporting any other kind of operations.
>
> I would say userspace is somewhat malfunctioning if it destroys vfio
> before the vdevice. So the main aim here should be to contain the
> resulting mess, but still expect userspace to destroy the vdevice
> without a failure.
>
The destruction of the vdevice is triggered by the .release method of
the iommufd file operations(iommufd_fops_release())
and the destruction of the idevice is driven by the .release method of
vfio cdev.
vfio_device_fops_release()
→ vfio_df_device_last_close()
→ vfio_iommufd_physical_unbind()
→ iommufd_device_unbind()
The vfio subsystem also retains a reference to the iommufd file descriptor through:
vfio_df_ioctl_bind_iommufd()
→ iommufd_ctx_from_fd()
This reference prevents the vdevice from being destroyed while the idevice remains bound.
So, IIUC, the current destruction flow is: first destroy vfio, and then destroy the vdevice?
>
>> hmm if the user needs to build certain knowledge anyway can we
>> go one step further to state that the vdevice will be destroyed
>> automatically once its idevice is unbound so the user shouldn't
>> attempt to explicitly destroy it again after unbind?
>
> I would assume a malfunctioning userspace is probably going to destroy
> the vdevice explicitly. If it had proper knowledge it wouldn't have
> done this in the first place :)
>
> Jason
-aneesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-16 4:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 6:51 [RFC PATCH] iommufd: Destroy vdevice on device unbind Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2025-06-12 8:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-12 17:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-13 7:31 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-13 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 3:56 ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-16 4:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2025-06-16 5:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-16 16:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 8:07 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-17 18:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-18 5:29 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-18 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-18 14:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-18 15:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-19 5:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-24 10:33 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-24 12:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-16 5:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-16 4:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-16 5:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-16 4:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2025-06-16 5:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-06-16 5:58 ` Xu Yilun
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