* Problems with parallel building
@ 2008-02-05 14:23 Uwe Kleine-König
2008-02-06 21:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2008-02-05 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kbuild
Hello,
using v2.6.24-7284-g9ef9dc6 (plus some patches that shouldn't affect
kbuild) I have problems with parallel building (make -j 3). Sometimes
the build fails, the error isn't always the same.
The last build resulted in:
...
SYSMAP .tmp_System.map
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/Image
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/Image
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/Image
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
GZIP arch/arm/boot/Image.gz
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o
GZIP arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.gz
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o
GZIP arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.gz
UIMAGE arch/arm/boot/uzImage
CC arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.o
Image Name: Linux-2.6.24-07325-g0f3fee0-dirt
Created: Tue Feb 5 14:49:25 2008
Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (gzip compressed)
Data Size: 1240792 Bytes = 1211.71 kB = 1.18 MB
Load Address: 0x00008000
Entry Point: 0x00008000
Image arch/arm/boot/uzImage is ready
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
CC arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.o
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o
LD arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o: In function `not_relocated':
/home/ukleinek/gsrc/linux-2.6/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S:249: undefined reference to `decompress_kernel'
arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o: In function `wont_overwrite':
/home/ukleinek/gsrc/linux-2.6/arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S:286: undefined reference to `decompress_kernel'
make[4]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 1
make[3]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make[2]: *** [uImage] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
The command to start the build was:
make "ARCH=arm" "CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-" -j 3 uzImage uImage zImage Image
Running that command once more worked without errors.
I could reproduce that problem with current Linus' master
(v2.6.24-7284-g9ef9dc6).
I did:
while delmake ns9xxx_defconfig && delmake -j 3 Image zImage uImage && delmake mrproper; do :; done
with delmake being a wrapper script that does
make "ARCH=arm" "CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-" "$@"
after adding the toolchain to my PATH.
The result was:
...
KSYM .tmp_kallsyms2.S
AS .tmp_kallsyms2.o
LD vmlinux
SYSMAP System.map
SYSMAP .tmp_System.map
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/Image
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o
GZIP arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.gz
CC arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.o
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
AS arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o
CC arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.o
fixdep: arch/arm/boot/compressed/.piggy.o.d: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
LD arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
OBJCOPY arch/arm/boot/zImage
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready
UIMAGE arch/arm/boot/uImage
Image Name: Linux-2.6.24
Created: Tue Feb 5 15:05:22 2008
Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Data Size: 734016 Bytes = 716.81 kB = 0.70 MB
Load Address: 0x00108000
Entry Point: 0x00108000
Image arch/arm/boot/uImage is ready
Now the loop is running again with passing V=1 make. So far without failing :-)
I will let this run over night and report tomorrow.
[...]
Oh, it failed just now, I think at the same stage:
...
arm-linux-ld -EL -p --no-undefined -X -o .tmp_vmlinux2 -T arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/built-in.o --start-group usr/built-in.o arch/arm/kernel/built-in.o arch/arm/mm/built-in.o arch/arm/common/built-in.o arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/built-in.o arch/arm/nwfpe/built-in.o kernel/built-in.o mm/built-in.o fs/built-in.o ipc/built-in.o security/built-in.o crypto/built-in.o block/built-in.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a lib/lib.a arch/arm/lib/built-in.o lib/built-in.o drivers/built-in.o sound/built-in.o net/built-in.o --end-group .tmp_kallsyms1.o
arm-linux-nm -n .tmp_vmlinux2 | scripts/kallsyms > .tmp_kallsyms2.S
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,./..tmp_kallsyms2.o.d -D__ASSEMBLY__ -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -gdwarf-2 -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -c -o .tmp_kallsyms2.o .tmp_kallsyms2.S
arm-linux-ld -EL -p --no-undefined -X -o vmlinux -T arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/built-in.o --start-group usr/built-in.o arch/arm/kernel/built-in.o arch/arm/mm/built-in.o arch/arm/common/built-in.o arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/built-in.o arch/arm/nwfpe/built-in.o kernel/built-in.o mm/built-in.o fs/built-in.o ipc/built-in.o security/built-in.o crypto/built-in.o block/built-in.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a lib/lib.a arch/arm/lib/built-in.o lib/built-in.o drivers/built-in.o sound/built-in.o net/built-in.o --end-group .tmp_kallsyms2.o
echo 'cmd_vmlinux := arm-linux-ld -EL -p --no-undefined -X -o vmlinux -T arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/kernel/head.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/built-in.o --start-group usr/built-in.o arch/arm/kernel/built-in.o arch/arm/mm/built-in.o arch/arm/common/built-in.o arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/built-in.o arch/arm/nwfpe/built-in.o kernel/built-in.o mm/built-in.o fs/built-in.o ipc/built-in.o security/built-in.o crypto/built-in.o block/built-in.o arch/arm/lib/lib.a lib/lib.a arch/arm/lib/built-in.o lib/built-in.o drivers/built-in.o sound/built-in.o net/built-in.o --end-group .tmp_kallsyms2.o' > ./.vmlinux.cmd
echo ' /bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap System.map' && /bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap vmlinux System.map; if [ $? -ne 0 ]; then rm -f vmlinux; /bin/false; fi;
/bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap System.map
echo ' /bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap .tmp_System.map' && /bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap .tmp_vmlinux2 .tmp_System.map
/bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mksysmap .tmp_System.map
cmp -s System.map .tmp_System.map || (echo Inconsistent kallsyms data; echo Try setting CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS; rm .tmp_kallsyms* ; /bin/false )
rm -f .old_version
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/arm/boot MACHINE=arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/ arch/arm/boot/Image
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/arm/boot MACHINE=arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/ arch/arm/boot/zImage
arm-linux-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .note.gnu.build-id -R .comment -S vmlinux arch/arm/boot/Image
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/arm/boot MACHINE=arch/arm/mach-ns9xxx/ arch/arm/boot/uImage
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/arm/boot/compressed arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/arm/boot/compressed/.head.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -D__ASSEMBLY__ -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -gdwarf-2 -c -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.S
gzip -f -9 < arch/arm/boot/compressed/../Image > arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.gz
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/arm/boot/compressed/.misc.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -O2 -marm -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mapcs -mno-sched-prolog -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -Uarm -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -g -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fpic -fno-builtin -Dstatic= -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(misc)" -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(misc)" -c -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/.tmp_misc.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/arm/boot/compressed/.piggy.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -D__ASSEMBLY__ -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -gdwarf-2 -c -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.S
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/Image is ready
make -f scripts/Makefile.build obj=arch/arm/boot/compressed arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/arm/boot/compressed/.piggy.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -D__ASSEMBLY__ -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -gdwarf-2 -c -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.S
arm-linux-gcc -Wp,-MD,arch/arm/boot/compressed/.misc.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/include -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -include include/linux/autoconf.h -mlittle-endian -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Werror-implicit-function-declaration -O2 -marm -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mapcs -mno-sched-prolog -mabi=apcs-gnu -mno-thumb-interwork -D__LINUX_ARM_ARCH__=5 -march=armv5te -mtune=arm9tdmi -msoft-float -Uarm -fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -g -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fpic -fno-builtin -Dstatic= -D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(misc)" -D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(misc)" -c -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/.tmp_misc.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c
fixdep: arch/arm/boot/compressed/.piggy.o.d: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o] Error 2
make[1]: *** [arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
arm-linux-ld -EL --defsym zreladdr=0x108000 --defsym params_phys=0x100 -p --no-undefined -X /home/ukleinek/csrc/LxNETES-4/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux-uclibc/4.0.3/libgcc.a -T arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux.lds arch/arm/boot/compressed/head.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.o -o arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
arm-linux-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .note.gnu.build-id -R .comment -S arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux arch/arm/boot/zImage
Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready
/bin/sh /home/ukleinek/gsrc/l/scripts/mkuboot.sh -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x108000 -e 0x108000 -n 'Linux-2.6.24' -d arch/arm/boot/zImage arch/arm/boot/uImage
Image Name: Linux-2.6.24
Created: Tue Feb 5 15:19:05 2008
Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Data Size: 733972 Bytes = 716.77 kB = 0.70 MB
Load Address: 0x00108000
Entry Point: 0x00108000
Image arch/arm/boot/uImage is ready
ukleinek@zentaur:~$ arm-linux-gcc --version
arm-linux-gcc (GCC) 4.0.3
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
ukleinek@zentaur:~$ arm-linux-as --version
GNU assembler 2.16.1
Copyright 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License. This program has absolutely no warranty.
This assembler was configured for a target of `arm-linux-uclibc'.
Best regards
Uwe
--
Uwe Kleine-König, Software Engineer
Digi International GmbH Branch Breisach, Küferstrasse 8, 79206 Breisach, Germany
Tax: 315/5781/0242 / VAT: DE153662976 / Reg. Amtsgericht Dortmund HRB 13962
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* Re: Problems with parallel building
2008-02-05 14:23 Problems with parallel building Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2008-02-06 21:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-07 6:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sam Ravnborg @ 2008-02-06 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Uwe Kleine-König; +Cc: linux-kbuild
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> Hello,
>
> using v2.6.24-7284-g9ef9dc6 (plus some patches that shouldn't affect
> kbuild) I have problems with parallel building (make -j 3). Sometimes
> the build fails, the error isn't always the same.
Hi Uwe.
Is this new behaviour?
If it is it would be nice if you could bisect when it happened.
One suspect could be:
18c32dac75b187d1a4e858f3cfdf03e844129f5e
or
0b35786d77ba4037f181982cc8ca20a7a3bf0fd2
but they should only be relevant when you use O=...
If this is as it has always been then I am not suprised.
It is non-trivial to take all the targets supplied on the commandline
and serialize them especially as we do not know them beforehand
and we do not know which one is specified.
Sam
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* Re: Problems with parallel building
2008-02-06 21:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
@ 2008-02-07 6:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2008-02-07 7:56 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2008-02-07 6:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Ravnborg; +Cc: linux-kbuild
Hi Sam,
Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > using v2.6.24-7284-g9ef9dc6 (plus some patches that shouldn't affect
> > kbuild) I have problems with parallel building (make -j 3). Sometimes
> > the build fails, the error isn't always the same.
>
> Hi Uwe.
>
> Is this new behaviour?
I'm not sure, because I only recently created some scripts that use -j 3
and use them frequently. I'd say it started around 2.6.23 ...
> If it is it would be nice if you could bisect when it happened.
> One suspect could be:
> 18c32dac75b187d1a4e858f3cfdf03e844129f5e
> or
> 0b35786d77ba4037f181982cc8ca20a7a3bf0fd2
... which could match the latter.
> but they should only be relevant when you use O=...
I do use O=...
I will try to bisect it and let you know.
Best regards
Uwe
--
Uwe Kleine-König, Software Engineer
Digi International GmbH Branch Breisach, Küferstrasse 8, 79206 Breisach, Germany
Tax: 315/5781/0242 / VAT: DE153662976 / Reg. Amtsgericht Dortmund HRB 13962
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* Re: Problems with parallel building
2008-02-07 6:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
@ 2008-02-07 7:56 ` Uwe Kleine-König
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Uwe Kleine-König @ 2008-02-07 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sam Ravnborg; +Cc: linux-kbuild
Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > using v2.6.24-7284-g9ef9dc6 (plus some patches that shouldn't affect
> > > kbuild) I have problems with parallel building (make -j 3). Sometimes
> > > the build fails, the error isn't always the same.
> >
> > Hi Uwe.
> >
> > Is this new behaviour?
> I'm not sure, because I only recently created some scripts that use -j 3
> and use them frequently. I'd say it started around 2.6.23 ...
>
> > If it is it would be nice if you could bisect when it happened.
> > One suspect could be:
> > 18c32dac75b187d1a4e858f3cfdf03e844129f5e
> > or
> > 0b35786d77ba4037f181982cc8ca20a7a3bf0fd2
> ... which could match the latter.
>
> > but they should only be relevant when you use O=...
> I do use O=...
>
> I will try to bisect it and let you know.
With e.g. v2.6.21 it's even worse. I get for each build:
...
CRC32c (Castagnoli, et al) Cyclic Redundancy-Check (LIBCRC32C) [N/m/y/?] n
#
# configuration written to .config
#
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/arm/Kconfig
CHK include/linux/version.h
UPD include/linux/version.h
SYMLINK include/asm-arm/arch -> include/asm-arm/arch-ns9xxx
CHK include/linux/version.h
CHK include/linux/version.h
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
UPD include/linux/utsrelease.h
make[2]: `/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6/include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.
Using /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 as source for kernel
/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'
in the '/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6' directory.
make[1]: *** [prepare3] Error 1
make: *** [uImage] Error 2
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
make[2]: `/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6/include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.
Using /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 as source for kernel
/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'
in the '/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6' directory.
make[1]: *** [prepare3] Error 1
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
GEN /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/obj/Makefile
CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
make[2]: `/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6/include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.
Using /home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 as source for kernel
/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'
in the '/home/ukleinek/tmp/buildtest/linux-2.6' directory.
make[1]: *** [prepare3] Error 1
make: *** [Image] Error 2
make: INTERNAL: Exiting with 4 jobserver tokens available; should be 3!
The result is the same for v2.6.22 and v2.6.23.
Bisecting this yielded 0b35786d77ba4037f181982cc8ca20a7a3bf0fd2.
The script used for building is:
#! /bin/bash -e
seq -w 1 100 | while read i; do
echo "********************* run $i *************************";
rm -rf ../obj;
mkdir ../obj;
delmake O=../obj ns9xxx_defconfig;
if ! delmake O=../obj -j 3 uImage zImage Image; then
break;
fi;
done;
Best regards
Uwe
--
Uwe Kleine-König, Software Engineer
Digi International GmbH Branch Breisach, Küferstrasse 8, 79206 Breisach, Germany
Tax: 315/5781/0242 / VAT: DE153662976 / Reg. Amtsgericht Dortmund HRB 13962
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