From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ngcobalt07.manitu.net ([217.11.48.107]:43446 "EHLO ngcobalt07.manitu.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750711Ab3BIFIi (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:08:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 06:07:48 +0100 From: Roland Eggner Subject: Re: [PATCH resend v3 3/3] kconfig: nconf: add vi-style navigation keys Message-ID: <20130209050748.GB8891@mobil.systemanalysen.net> Reply-To: Roland Eggner References: <20130201182237.GA11098@mobil.systemanalysen.net> <20130201183357.GD11098@mobil.systemanalysen.net> <201302090203.04055.yann.morin.1998@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201302090203.04055.yann.morin.1998@free.fr> Sender: linux-kbuild-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: "Yann E. MORIN" Cc: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Voytik , Michal Marek , Stephen Boyd , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-02-09 Saturday at 02:03 +0100 Yann E. MORIN wrote: > On Friday 01 February 2013 Roland Eggner wrote: > > Add vi-style navigation keys, based on initial work by Dmitry Voytik. >=20 > As much I am a unconditional vim user, I doubt this is a sane idea to > include this, as it conflicts with the established UI that people expect, > especially since is remapped and people already rely on to provide > help, not do any other weird thing (like exiting the current submenu). Having the most frequently used keys in the middle of the keyboard is=20 a professional computer usage pattern, not an anachronistic one. Regarding the / conflict: My vision is to eliminate the need for hel= p=20 keybindings at all by displaying the related help text beside the m= enu=20 permanently, similar to some graphical backends. For terminals with=20 COLUMNS>=3D160 this should be rather easy to implement. nouveaufb gives me= by=20 default terminal with 274 columns, =E2=80=9Cretina=E2=80=9D displays are en= tering the market=20 =E2=80=A6 the frequency of COLUMNS>=3D160 terminals probably will continue = to grow. While=20 staying compatible with COLUMNS=3D80, it seems reasonable to use the capabi= lities=20 of wider terminals, or what would you say? Cannot promise when I will find the time to prepare a patch. --=20 Regards Roland Eggner --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEV2aQACgkQdN/hKfT7G/Li8wCghN4v8W1fFkkA6heKgTxh0KsG K/8AoK2Vi8LJWQ04tnXVjMNBXH5eTkuB =1bVV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq--