From: Pavel Machek <pavel@denx.de>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
"Fernandes, Joel A" <joelagnel@ti.com>,
Grant Likely <glikely@secretlab.ca>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, tony@atomide.com,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
u-boot@lists.denx.de, Joel A Fernandes <agnel.joel@gmail.com>,
"Rini, Tom" <trini@ti.com>,
Linux OMAP List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ARM Kernel List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:04:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130318180458.GC4230@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130318175746.GJ30923@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Mon 2013-03-18 17:57:46, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 06:49:32PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > What I wanted to say is that kernel build traditionaly produced
> > something useful, something bootloader can actually boot. Currently,
> > make uImage produces u-boot image. Please keep that capability.
>
> Unfortunately, there is a fundamental problem with uImage. It encodes
> the load address, and that is utterly incompatible with the goal of
> having a kernel image which boots on multiple platforms.
>
> uImage isn't going anywhere for the time being, but you will find
> that:
>
> a) recent kernels will just wrap the zImage without a DTB, so
> appended DTBs can't be used with it
> b) it won't work with MULTIPLATFORM-enabled kernels, unless you
> provide make with a LOADADDR= argument to tell it where the
> uImage is to be loaded - which is platform specific.
>
> (b) fundamentally can't be solved in kbuild. If you want to use
> uImage with multiple platforms from the same zImage, then you need
> to generate multiple uImage files with different load addresses.
> That's purely - and solely - down to the dysfunctional uImage format.
I know. uImage is not perfect. But solution should be "adopt a better
format" (ARM FIT?), not "drop support for making useful images
altogether" as Olof proposed before.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-18 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-21 1:37 [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21 4:26 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 7:15 ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21 18:58 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:18 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:03 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 10:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 13:20 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:08 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 14:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:46 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 17:25 ` [U-Boot] " Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 17:40 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 19:37 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 20:05 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 20:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 21:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-22 0:10 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 20:48 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 18:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 21:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 22:05 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 23:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:50 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:19 ` Scott Wood
2013-02-22 2:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 0:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 0:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 2:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 0:19 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-22 2:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 3:32 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-22 7:56 ` Jason Kridner
2013-02-22 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22 6:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:45 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22 0:29 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:56 ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-02-21 17:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 18:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-23 8:38 ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-22 16:00 ` Olof Johansson
2013-03-18 16:36 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 16:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-18 17:49 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 17:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-18 18:04 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2013-03-18 18:14 ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
2013-03-18 19:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 19:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 18:29 ` [U-Boot] " Tom Rini
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