From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86: enable dead code and data elimination (LTO)
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:51:57 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170713125157.7f418fa6@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a849aaa3.fsf@firstfloor.org>
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 09:29:40 -0700
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> wrote:
> Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> I think we should aim for gc-sections to be used by default and have LTO
> >> as a possible option only.
> >
> > I agree after it starts getting implemented and debugged by small
> > system users, we could make it default in the interest of sharing
> > testing and reducing combinations.
>
> From what i understand the main drawback in the past was
> is that various linker versions become very slow with thousands of
> sections.
>
> So it may cost you built time. For a special small build it's probably
> ok, but you wouldn't want to make it default.
For --gc-sections, I have found it costs almost nothing (full LTO
is a different story).
We will have to do more testing and get numbers before it's made
default of course.
>
> Also usually it's only useful without modules because if you
> use modules EXPORT_SYMBOL pulls in a lot of unused functions.
Yes that and several other things that cause references from live
code/data does reduce effectiveness. Nicolas has been working on
several improvements to these (including EXPORT trimming he
mentioned).
>
> BTW I'm still maintaining a "real LTO" patchkit here, which
> has some users (mainly for binary size), but also gives some
> performance. Should probably resubmit it again. The main
> issue was that the old single link patch is still not forward
> ported.
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ak/linux-misc.git/log/?h=lto-411-2
Yeah we should start looking at full LTO again after --gc-sections.
I've been looking at your patches but actually before I saw your
single link patch I did another approach. Never quite got it working
exactly right, but it would be nice to avoid linking 3 extra times
every build regardless of LTO!
Thanks,
Nick
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-13 2:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-09 3:13 [RFC PATCH] x86: enable dead code and data elimination (LTO) Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-09 9:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-09 13:29 ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-07-09 13:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-07-10 2:13 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-12 16:29 ` Andi Kleen
2017-07-12 17:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-07-13 2:51 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
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