From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
Nicolas Schier <nsc@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <nick.desaulniers+lkml@gmail.com>,
Bill Wendling <morbo@google.com>,
Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2] tools build: Use -fzero-init-padding-bits=all
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 09:22:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260225092210.GC4184494@e132581.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202602241310.C3641B97@keescook>
On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 01:11:19PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 10:19:56AM -0700, Nathan Chancellor wrote:
> > Hi Leo,
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2026 at 12:16:40PM +0000, Leo Yan wrote:
> > > GCC-15 release claims [1]:
> > >
> > > {0} initializer in C or C++ for unions no longer guarantees clearing
> > > of the whole union (except for static storage duration initialization),
> > > it just initializes the first union member to zero. If initialization
> > > of the whole union including padding bits is desirable, use {} (valid
> > > in C23 or C++) or use -fzero-init-padding-bits=unions option to
> > > restore old GCC behavior.
> > >
> > > As a result, this new behaviour might cause unexpected data when we
> > > initialize a union with using the '{ 0 }' initializer.
> > >
> > > Since commit dce4aab8441d ("kbuild: Use -fzero-init-padding-bits=all"),
> > > the kernel has enabled -fzero-init-padding-bits=all to zero padding bits
> > > in unions and structures. This commit applies the same option for tools
> > > building.
> > >
> > > The option is not supported neither by any version older than GCC 15 and
> > > is also not supported by LLVM, this patch adds the cc-option function to
> > > dynamically detect the compiler option.
> > >
> > > [1] https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-15/changes.html
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>
> > > ---
> > > Resent to linux-kbuild mailing list.
> >
> > Kbuild does not maintain/touch tools/. This should go via another tree
> > like perf or something. It does not look like
> > tools/scripts/Makefile.include has a clear owner, perf and bpf tend to
> > be the ones who touch it the most.
This is a circular deadlock. Namhyung (the perf maintainer) advised me
to send patch to the linux-kbuild [1], for fixing an union init issue
found recently.
> You could claim it! ;)
>
> Regardless, I like to see cc-option available here, as I doubt this will
> be the last conditional option for tool builds. (Actually, are there
> other conditional options that could use this today in the tools
> Makefiles?)
Some subprojects in tools have their own conditional options.
This patch is ambitious that it changes the global Makefile.include file
so it can propagate the '-fzero-init-padding-bits=all' option to
projects that include it. Why do we need to do this globally? This is
because Perf needs to build several subprojects (libperf and bpftool).
Thanks,
Leo
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-perf-users/20260224122054.GB4184494@e132581.arm.com/T/#ma07fc114e84254d0173490409955e9d3bea147be
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-25 9:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-24 12:16 [PATCH RESEND v2] tools build: Use -fzero-init-padding-bits=all Leo Yan
2026-02-24 17:19 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-24 21:11 ` Kees Cook
2026-02-25 9:22 ` Leo Yan [this message]
2026-02-25 19:25 ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-02-26 18:33 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-02-26 18:38 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-02-26 22:52 ` Quentin Monnet
2026-02-27 10:36 ` Leo Yan
2026-02-27 11:52 ` Quentin Monnet
2026-03-04 1:14 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-04 1:28 ` Quentin Monnet
2026-03-04 1:35 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-04 9:23 ` Leo Yan
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